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Could this be a better explaination of how life really started?

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by Skreiaberg, Sep 7, 2021.

  1. Tolworth John

    Tolworth John Well-Known Member Supporter

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    So you are unaware of the scientific theory called the heat death.
    Basically it says that one day every fussable mater will have been used up and the stars will go out leaving a cold sterile empty universe.

    If mattter has always existed then this will have already happened, unless the universe is not old but is young.
     
  2. jacknife

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    Heath death isn't a theory it's a hypothesis about the ultimate fate of the universe. Also since the universe is still expanding it's hasn't/maybe will not. Reach the state heath death talks about.
     
  3. Tolworth John

    Tolworth John Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yes and it supposes that one day there will be nothing, just as the big bang theory proposes that at one time the universe did not exists, something that your suggest that matter has always existed would be false.
     
  4. jacknife

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    No it doesn't it proposes that one day there won't be enough energy to carry on thermodynamic activity basically creating a universe we're everything is "dead" it's also very unproven.
     
  5. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    I'm well aware of heat-death. But it's no longer considered the 'final word' - there are many cosmological theories of universe life-cycles that allow heat-death within an eternal cycle, some of which I've already described in these forums, Penrose's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology and Guth's eternal inflation model among them.

    For a very readable treatment of time in cosmology and the various cosmological models, I recommend Sean Carroll's "From Eternity to Here".
     
  6. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    No, the big bang theory says only that the universe as we know it emerged from a very hot dense state. - very much not nothing.

    Heat-death doesn't mean that "one day there will be nothing", it means that one day there will be nothing interesting. There will still be the same amount of energy around as today but distributed uniformly, and there will still be spacetime with its quantum fields.
     
  7. The happy Objectivist

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    So are you saying that consciousness is not natural because that would be absurd on it's face?
     
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