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I wish to extend the invitation to the Sabbath and the Law forum of General Theology as well.Apparently you have not visited the "Sabbath and the Law" forum in the General Theology section
I take it that means anything n the Bible especially the prophets and the words of Jesus.if you were going to rewrite the Sabbath Commandment in actual scripture so it more perfectly fit that statement how would you write it?
Like this?
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD (YHWH) your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Would then "declare" that for all eternity after the cross in the "New Heavens and New Earth" of Revelation 21 that TWO regular cycles would be used for worship?. That from New Moon to New Moon "And From SABBATH to SABBATH shall ALL mankind come before Me to worship" Isaiah 66:23
Actually whatever is just "you or I saying or writing" is hardly worth the paper it is printed on... what matter is -- what did God say.
I love both and missed what you are talking about. Would you kindly quote from the Scripture?Added this in the OP "in Romans 14 all Bible - approved holy days are defended, and in Galatians 4 all pagan days are condemned."
Where does Gal 4 condemn pagan days?Romans 14 one man observes one day above another while another observes them all - speaking of the Leviticus 23 Bible-approved list of days... not at all speaking of the Galatians 4 fully-condemned pagan days.
Seems you nailed it with your own answer.Indeed, why would you want to condemn anyone for following a set Saturday Sabbath?
So why do SDA condemn people not observing it?
Because they follow SOME of the letter/ written code, not the Holy Spirit.
But also, why has Christianity split into over 30,000 different denominations?
Because the flesh of man likes to believe he has a monopoly on following the truth, and everyone else needs to be where his, and his particular denominations beliefs are at.
Carnal thinking:
No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have Gods approval
1cor11:19
Where does Gal 4 condemn pagan days?
bugkiller
I have been kindly informed that this is not the place for debate. Please disregard my postings. Blessings to all
It appears to me Paul is talking to Jews in the beginning of the chapter and in the end of the chapter as well. So I want to know what "elemental things" are. Are they days? You did emphasize that.In the text of the first few verses in the chapter you are not quoting.
For example -
8 However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. 9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.
The church of the Galatians is a church of gentiles that have converted from paganism to Christianity.
Christ speaking to a Samaritan in John 4 says "Salvation is of the Jews"
Paul in speaking to the Jews claims in the book of Acts - that his gospel is merely teaching exactly what the O.T. text predicted and is not in conflict with Judaism at all.
Seventh-day Adventists routinely teach that "Sunday worship" is unbiblical. They will point to the 4th commandment teaching of the sabbath to somehow indicate that the only day acceptable to worship God on is Saturday.
Yet no where in scripture can an Adventist point to that indicates that worshipping God on Sunday is unbiblical.
Not only did those in the temple worship God daily which would necessarily include Sundays (cf. Hebrews 10:11), but even the early Christians broke bread and worshipped together every day
It appears to me Paul is talking to Jews in the beginning of the chapter and in the end of the chapter as well. So I want to know what "elemental things" are. Are they days? You did emphasize that.
bugkiller
they follow SOME of the letter/ written code, not the Holy Spirit.
Often Romans 14 and Galatians 4 are introduced as if they are deleting some part of God's Commandments... only to find out - they are not.
By their fruits you shall know them. We know that the Bible is easy to be understood if you follow the instruction given through the Holy Spirit. Desiring to know and please God is paramount to understanding truth.Wasn't it the Holy Spirit who was the inspiration behind the written word? Isn't He One with God Who spoke the commandments and wrote them with His own finger on stone?
Isn't He the one that is to ingrain those commands into our hearts and minds -- write them there and make them part of our very nature?
I guess it has always puzzled me why SOME Christians think its not important, to be "remembering" the day that God blessed and sanctified and asked us to "remember". As Christians we long to do God's will, don't we? He's the One Who saved us from the slavery of sin -- and asks us to remember Him in a special way on the seventh day. He's the One Who created us, and the call is sounded in Revelation 14 to worship Him who made all things. Yes, worship our Savior every day -- but even Christians realize they need a special day away from the rat race of life, to remember and worship in a special way. They choose the "resurrection day" which is the first day, but I can't find anything in scripture that tells us the first day is the day God blessed and sanctified and asked us to remember Him in a special way.