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Featured Could America be inching closer to civil war?

Discussion in 'Current News & Events (Articles Required)' started by Yoko.52, Jan 5, 2021.

  1. Yoko.52

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    Here is the problem there are satellites in orbit that can spot everything...infrared to spot underground bunkers. The United States Military has the firepower. Could right wingers cause trouble yes...could they win...not a chance in hell.
     
  2. Darkhorse

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    This is not correct. Virginia has laws against wearing a mask in public (imagine that!), but these laws have no affect on the legality of carrying a gun.
     
  3. Brando Marlin

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    So the person that got shot was a unarmed 14 year USAF vet? Dude what the! They killed a unarmed female 14 year USAF Vet! I'm having a hard time with this one...
     
  4. Brando Marlin

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    Is anybody else okay with this? Also there are calls to censor all conservative thought platforms? Um yeah...
     
  5. Yoko.52

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    What is really sad here is conservatives did this to themselves. Jeb Bush would have beaten Hillary, the allowed a sociopath to be president, he incited this rioted...he should be removed from office immediately and prosecuted.
     
  6. Macchiato

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    Right. Its so worrying
     
  7. RDKirk

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    Satellites can cover a lot, and automated systems can do a lot of AI searches for things that have distinctive identification features. But it ultimately falls to human eyes to make such determinations, and the number of human eyeballs available for that kind of work--in addition to watching all the bad guys around the world--is limited.

    The low tech of such groups is itself a problem. There is zero observable difference from space between an SUV full of armed "militia" and an SUV full of soccer players.

    (Not to mention that such surveillance of US soil and US persons is very highly regulated...the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency would have to get a court warrant for each case and even each individual they monitored. There is a special court available for such things, and although they're liberal with granting warrants, it still takes all that legal effort.)

    We really, really, really don't want to see what might happen if the military has to stand against US citizens. My feeling is that the federal military will drag their heels as long as local and state law enforcement can manage.

    We might see some tactical surveillance assets (surveillance drones) deployed to give very specific support to local law enforcement. That's been done before and there have been successive Executive Orders since Reagan to permit it.
     
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  8. Brando Marlin

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    He did not incite these people! He went of Tweeter with a video asking for no violence and for people to go home and they removed it! Tweeter removed it because they want to lie to people like you and you believe them. GOD does not care about political correctness. Also it seems like you are ok with people burning the country down all year but this bothers you? So its safe to say you voted for chomo joe?
     
  9. RDKirk

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    After the fact. But he was the one who called them there and incited them with fighting words before the fact.

    Moreover, security in Washington DC is a complex and constantly shifting interaction of several different federal armed agencies, including the National Guard, the US Marshalls, the Secret Service, Homeland Security, the FBI, the Bureau of Prisons, the DC police force, and specific police forces that guard places like the White House, the Pentagon, and the Capitol. Even something like the president taking a street trip to the Pentagon or the Capitol building takes a lot of coordination between several agencies.

    That everyone knew such a huge mob was heading for the Capitol and left security to nobody but the regular Capitol police--unlike any similar situation in recent years--was a deliberate decision...by someone in the White House.
     
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  10. Brando Marlin

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    I have been schooled thanks for the info. But then why would they remove his video so the people can't see it? Don't get me wrong what went down shouldn't have but people are mad and have the right to be. Its still just crazy they killed that unarmed women.
     
  11. Thomas White

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    Yes... a remote chance.
     
  12. Cis.jd

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    Trump is trying to avoid jail.
     
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  13. 9Rock9

    9Rock9 Sinner in need of grace.

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    As much as I wanted Trump to win, it's now all an embarrassment.

    I just hope we can heal from this, and I think both parties have something to learn.

    I just hope the GOP just didn't commit political suicide.
     
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  14. Aussie Pete

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    Mr Trump is a symptom, not the problem. If successive administrations had governed for all Americans instead of a narrow range of self interested rich and powerful, Mr Trump would have had no base to appeal to. Those disenchanted people are not going anywhere. I hope that this mess will prompt Christians to pray (1 Timothy 2:1).

    So-called progressives are a part of the problem, not the solution. A nation does not gain God's favour by rejecting Him and His ways. America has being doing that for decades now, as has much of the Western world.
     
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  15. GDL

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    As is the entire political situation here a symptom growing ever worse pursuant to your second paragraph.
     
  16. Wolseley

    Wolseley Beaucoup-Diên-Cai-Dāu

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    If what happens is what I think may happen, political suicide will be irrelevant----when we come out the other side of this period, there won't be any GOP....or any Democrats, either. :(

    I think things are going to get very, very ugly in this country in the coming few months....I think the Capitol incident was merely the first shot fired on Ft. Sumter. I think this thing is going to gain steam, spread, and rapidly become completely uncontrollable. People have been putting up with this garbage from their politicians for decades, and I think we just went past a tipping point.

    As the man said in the old movie "Network", "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!!!" This has been building for years---and I think it's leaking rage---and any minute now, it's gonna blow. Heaven alone only knows what things will look like once the dust settles.

    I hope I'm wrong. But I don't think I am. :(
     
  17. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    If I believed the Republicans were unified I would be willing to say yes. The Republicans are not unified behind Trump and many establishment GOP figures are using this as the perfect excuse to separate themselves from the MAGA republicans. The establishment right is unlike the establishment democrats who use Antifa and BLM riots for their own ends. They don't want to be associated with those people and thus I think we could see the establishment of a new party. Maybe and if it guts the Republicans I wouldn't feel bad for them.

    I think this whole mess has shown there is a willingness on the right to not simply be passive. To riot in response. The only problem is that the establishments of both left in right don't like it when the right riots or protests. It's acceptable for Protesters to burn a Wendy's or a federal Courthouse in Portland, that's justified and totally reasonable (sarcasm). It's completely unacceptable to march into Nancy Pelosi's office and take a picture though.

    The left best hope that the establishment Republicans take control of the party so that they can pretend to resist Democratic priorities. If the left really wants to outrage the right and make them feel even more disenfranchised, they should also make Porto-Rico a state along with D.C. the MAGA crowd takes over the Republicans, things move closer to a civil war.

    My uneducated foreigners opinion.
     
  18. GDL

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    Meaning?

    Who do you think fired this first shot?
     
  19. mindlight

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    The culture wars are deep and profound, but the Capitol Invasion is something that was directly incited by the US President. Since he will be removed in a matter of days (Jan 20th at latest) that factor will also be eliminated. So regarding how the Republican party handle the loss of both houses and the presidency when they no longer have power will be the real test here. When it is no longer a matter of political expediency to support Trump how many republicans will recognise the lie. So too early to say, but that Republicans are so vulnerable to mass delusion and great deceivers is a strong reason for their removal from power.
     
  20. Neostarwcc

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    Doesn't change the fact that Israel are God's chosen people and that we should bless them as they bless us. There wouldn't be salvation at all anywhere without the Jewish people and we all have Jewish roots whether we were descended from Abraham or not.
     
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