Coronavirus in ALL 50 states

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Are the hospitals so overwhelmed they can't report in a timely fashion?

It sounds like the data from NY may not all be in for yesterday yet, per the note on the data from worldometer.

They make corrections to previous days at times based on new info.
 
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It sounds like the data from NY may not all be in for yesterday yet, per the note on the data from worldometer.

They make corrections to previous days at times based on new info.
Does that indicate they are starting to get overwhelmed?
 
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I would be hesitant to draw any conclusions from how well information is being conveyed.
In NYC there are reports that the morgue's are overflowing, that people who pick up the dead have 3-4 times what they normally have, and that the city has brought in refrigerated trucks to handle the overflow.
 
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NYC has been on lockdown for almost 2 weeks, about 10 days. Still not seeing a slowdown on the growth rate.

Probably too soon. People who are dying today were likely infected 3+ weeks back.
 
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NYC has been on lockdown for almost 2 weeks, about 10 days. Still not seeing a slowdown on the growth rate.
Based on the experience of lockdowns elsewhere, the effect on the number of new cases should start to become clear in the next couple of days. The effect on deaths will lag by several weeks.
 
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Last Thursday, the US Census Bureau released data that showed the US population is growing at its slowest pace since 1919. The data was collected in the 12 months leading up to July 2019, well before the coronavirus outbreak took hold.

One demographer told The New York Times that if the pandemic results in as many deaths as the worst case projections predict, than we could see more deaths than births for the first time in US history.

Birth rates and immigration, forces that drive a country's growth, have both declined, while death rates have had a recent uptick.

If the coronavirus outbreak continues at an alarming rate, the US could see a swift population decline.
 
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If the coronavirus outbreak continues at an alarming rate, the US could see a swift population decline.

I doubt that. Worst case scenario would seem to be that everyone gets it and 3% die. While an enormous tragedy (~10 million people) I don't think it would represent a swift population decline.
 
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I doubt that. Worst case scenario would seem to be that everyone gets it and 3% die. While an enormous tragedy (~10 million people) I don't think it would represent a swift population decline.
We saw what happened to Japan when they had a population decline. For most economic models to work (things like Social Security) there has to be a steady rise in the work force. Even a slight decline in the work force could be a significant hit to the economy.

That said the article missed the point that the majority of the deaths will be in those who are retired, hence not as applicable as what happened in Japan.
 
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Still fascinated/horrified by the differences among states in Dr. Murray's models. They're keeping them updated as new information comes in, and obviously it's only a model, but it will be interesting to see how well it does at prediction.

Currently shows Alabama peaking with 303 deaths on April 19 and total deaths in the first wave of 5,516.

Compared with California peaking with 119 deaths on April 26 with 5,068 total deaths.

California has about 8 times the population of Alabama.
 
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