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Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

Discussion in 'Salt of the Earth - Traditionalist Catholics' started by Martin Tom, May 19, 2017.

  1. Martin Tom

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  2. Monk Brendan

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    Mary has been the Protectress of Russia since the Baptism of Kieven Rus in 988 A.D. How can Russia be more dedicated or consecrated to Mary than she is?
     
  3. Gracia Singh

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    This is interesting. I know this ties in to Fatima somehow, but am not clear on how, exactly.
     
  4. Martin Tom

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    Yes, it's Our Lady's request at Fatima.
     
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  5. Gracia Singh

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    Basically, it's been a century and no one's actually done it? That's kind of sad.
     
  6. Gracia Singh

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    Did it seem too politically or socially risky? Just guessing. Maybe wrong?
     
  7. Rhamiel

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    Yeah pretty much so
    During the Soviet Union it was seen risky to call out Russia like that and it would increase persecution of the Church

    Now it is seen as something that would offend the Russian Orthodox and hurt ecumenical efforts

    Basically those in positions of authority are more concerned about offending people rather than being loyal to Christ
     
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  8. Gracia Singh

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    Do you feel that the Catholic and Orthodox worlds could be close to reconciliation of some kind?
     
  9. Rhamiel

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    No, not really
    It would literally take a miracle
    But that is what we are waiting for with the consecration of Russia

    We should pray the rosary daily
    I know I have not always been very good at keeping that
     
  10. Martin Tom

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    North Korea...ISIS...Islamic terror...yet some believe the Consecration's already done.
     
  11. football5680

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    I have no problem with doing it again but it has been done in the past. Western Europe seems to be in a much worse state than in the East. They threw off the shackles of communism and rediscovered their Christian past.
     
  12. Martin Tom

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    Added to the above: Marawi (Mindanao, Philippines) , Manchester....
    yet some believe the Consecration's already done properly.