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Congresswoman Says Jews Bribe American Lawmakers to Support Israel, Sparks Outrage

Discussion in 'Current News & Events' started by JCFantasy23, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:31 PM.

  1. JCFantasy23

    JCFantasy23 In a Kingdom by the Sea. Staff Member Administrator Supporter CF Senior Ambassador Angels Team

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    Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) is facing backlash from all sides of the political spectrum after suggesting that American leaders only support Israel because Jews pay them to.

    Omar's remarks were in response to a tweet by journalist Glenn Greenwald criticizing House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-A) for threatening to "take action" against Omar and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) over their previous allegedly anti-Semitic statements.

    Greenwald accused McCarthy of unjustly attacking the freshmen Muslim congresswomen, to which Omar replied, "It's all about the Benjamins, baby."

    The first anti-Semitic trope Ungar-Sargon referred to was when Omar said in 2012 that "Israel has hypnotized the world."

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  2. David Cabrera

    David Cabrera Well-Known Member

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    What would be a good way of criticizing Israel without being anti-Semitic?
     
  3. Ringo84

    Ringo84 Separation of Church and State expert

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    What "tropes" did she supposedly use? I don't know why she apologized for this bad-faith claptrap, but it doesn't sit well with me when a "president" can be blatant with his racism and is given the benefit of the doubt by the same media that has to twist itself into a pretzel over Ihlan Omar.

    I guess she's Muslim so she's automatically anti-semitic?
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  4. JCFantasy23

    JCFantasy23 In a Kingdom by the Sea. Staff Member Administrator Supporter CF Senior Ambassador Angels Team

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    The issue raised is people are interpreting the tweet to mean politicians are only supporting Israel because Jews are paying them to be.
     
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  5. Ringo84

    Ringo84 Separation of Church and State expert

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    Seems to me that they're only supporting Israel because AIPAC money flows so freely throughout American politics, which is exactly what Omar said. How that somehow translates to anti-semitism is beyond me.

    This isn't directed at OP, necessarily, but in general: pearl clutch GIF on GIFER
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  6. TuxAme

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    Not accusing "the Jews" of paying people off is a start.
     
  7. Ringo84

    Ringo84 Separation of Church and State expert

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    Which is not what Omar did, since she was referencing American politicians being in the pocket of a powerful lobbying group.
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  8. Ringo84

    Ringo84 Separation of Church and State expert

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    What makes this even more ridiculously hypocritical is the fact that the same party currently clutching pearls over referencing an old P. Diddy song are the same ones who take every opportunity to accuse George Soros of....everything. That's not anti-semitism, of course, but a young Palestinian Muslim woman having an opinion about a lobbying group apparently is.
    Ringo
     
  9. dzheremi

    dzheremi Coptic Orthodox non-Egyptian

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    On one hand, this was bound to come up when you elect a hijabi Muslima. Ya shouldn't have done that if you didn't want to hear this sort of thing. This is their caanjero and butter. Muslims themselves such former Pakistani President Musharraf have said as much.

    On the other hand, she's not wrong just because she is a hijabi Muslima. The Israel lobby has a huge impact on American policy and politics. Ignoring that because you don't like the source or because you'd rather not have the source of this influence so bluntly stated is stupid. Why not call things as they are? Sure, it is definitely not "the Jews" everywhere as in some kind of conspiracy, but it is lobbyists for the Israeli cause, which is not wrong to state.

    Also, y'know...another writer at the same news/opinion site that publicized her tweets in the first place is making the case that she's not anti-Semitic for calling out AIPAC. So whose interpretation of Jewish offendedness should we take to? In fact, why should 'we' even care? A senator said something that some people disagreed with. Okay then. Bye.
     
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  10. dzheremi

    dzheremi Coptic Orthodox non-Egyptian

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    She's not Palestinian. She's Somali, born in Mogadishu.
     
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  11. Ringo84

    Ringo84 Separation of Church and State expert

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    Apologies. Thanks for correcting me on that.
    Ringo
     
  12. SoldierOfTheKing

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    The same Congress that is so up in arms about alleged Russian meddling in our elections is so quick to condemn anybody who speaks against Israeli meddling in our elections.

    That, in a nutshell, is why I don't care about Russian meddling.
     
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  13. Dave-W

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    The US house has well over 400 members. ONE is Islamic.

    OTOH, the Israeli Knesset has only 120 members and 13 are Islamic.** That is over `10%

    ** wikipedia article
     
  14. dzheremi

    dzheremi Coptic Orthodox non-Egyptian

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    What's your point?
     
  15. Dave-W

    Dave-W Grandparent of six grandchildren, #7 on the way! Supporter

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    We have much less to grouse about with only one Islamic lawmaker than Israel.
     
  16. dzheremi

    dzheremi Coptic Orthodox non-Egyptian

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    I'm neither grousing nor encouraging others to. I'm simply making the observation that the Palestinian cause is dear to many Muslims for whom it is something of a specifically Islamic cause celebre (and Christians too, although for other reasons, only some of which may overlap with the Muslims'), and so when you elect a woman whose faith is so prominently displayed in her run for government and in her personal dress, this is the sort of thing you can expect to get.

    It's analogous to how if you elect an Assyrian person (like Representative Anna Eshoo, D-California, 18th district), you're going to get someone who is especially focused on the issues that are important to that community. Rep. Omar, we may expect, would not be issuing such a statement as found at that link, because it is not customary for Muslims to call out their own, or to show concern or even differentiation between this type of Christian or that one. (Not saying she wouldn't, period, but Islam is a very tribal 'us v. them' religion in that way, and anyway she probably counts on the bloc voting behaviors of a considerable number of Muslims, being in Minneapolis as she is with its large population of Somali-Americans. It's not necessarily purposely hateful or neglectful, just good politics in her Islamic context just as Rep. Eshoo's statement is in its Assyrian/Christian/Iraqi minority context.)
     
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