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I decided to use my time now to prove the truth that I will seek to accept the catholic church according to what they say now assuming you need to be catechumen to be saved and if not able whatever they say which I dont know for I know all can be saved just to explore to see if that is true and if not proven not support divisions but others can follow that is sufficient to seek last rites if they want to follow that.
 
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I decided I will not seek to follow catholic church as I see it is unreasonable that you can never know if you are fully catholic as they require so much rules and preparation to be catholic that you could fail it many times in some aspect to make big delay and after you to have grace to know you are catholic they require too much above word of God than to be faithful catholic so I know it is not true but if anyone wants he can try to follow.
 
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I decided to accept orthodox church as fullness but that others can be saved to confirm if can enlighten one to full path of how others are saved even without the church but to be perfected in the church.I am not going to follow catholic church but if one wants one can follow the below if worried about true teaching that is understandable if want to be strict to follow the whole process of rcia though heard if one baptised orthodox one does not need to but may not trust but could accept anyway to test and try to follow what they say just to join church incase shows truth if chrismated just incase to know you did what you could to prove it is not true and at same time accepting if it is according atleast to what they teach now to show truth anyway even if not follow church fully later but if others are worried they can be catechumens incase required though if cant can do something only some priest should know but may not be required that may be enough to just seek to have last rites even if not possible if you kept making effort to.
 
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I decided to be able to prove truth to know the whole way to fully follow the orthodox church in its beliefs just to know if can prove the truth and to be safe but does not mean I know it is the only path but good to follow to be safe especially if following another church or catholic church it does not prove it is the way and I will seek christ if can show the full way for others to be saved. I will still visit other churches but follow orthodox church and seek to tell others I follow if they talk to me that I think is right that they can try but they dont have to leave their church completely.
 
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This was posted before and came up in my facebook memories as was saying in my facebook I asked them question how much must sell but I did not share my question just what page says and may be helpful.

From Facebook page maranatha come Lord Jesus


Reposting this very timely, encouraging and powerful prophetic word by Anita Alexander!

WHEN MAMMON IS YOUR GOD

"When mammon is your God: you view money as an answer to solve all problems- social, mental, emotional, physical.

When mammon is your God: you believe all people are not equal.

When mammon is your God: you fear for tomorrow.

When mammon is your God: your lenses are fixed on the temporal and not on the eternal.

When mammon is your God: you begin to dance with Judas.

When mammon is your God: honour and integrity is not part of your vocabulary.

When mammon is your God: loyalty does not exist.

When mammon is your God: debt is the usual transaction of purchase.

When mammon is your God: you WILL NOT and CANNOT walk by faith.

When mammon is your God: you are merely a puppet on strings.

Jesus makes an explosive statement in Luke 16:13

“It is impossible for a person to serve two masters at the same time. You will be forced to love one and reject the other. One master will be despised and the other will have your loyal devotion. It is no different with God and the wealth of this world. You must enthusiastically love one and definitively reject the other.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:13‬ ‭TPT‬‬

When Jesus says something is impossible I think we better listen? Remember now this is the guy who says ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

But one thing isn’t possible: YOU CANNOT HAVE TWO MASTERS.

YOU CANNOT SERVE GOD AND MAMMON.

Why?

Because you will BE FORCED to despise one in order to have loyal devotion to another.

That’s a pretty heavy statement right there!

Forced means to be obtained by coercion or physical power. WOW!

There is a time in every believers life and sometimes it’s numerous times, where they will BE FORCED to decide which side they stand and who is their God in regards to mammon.

Don’t be deceived in this hour. God is testing His people’s allegiance. Don’t for one minute think that you can sail through this hour with your eyes shut conforming to an evil agenda that has the love of money at its root.

Is God your source or is the world?

I’m serious. People who testify that Jesus is their Lord need to be asking themselves this question in this hour. Is He really your God? Because your loyalty is being tested.

An earlier verse in Luke 16:9 instructs us in the kind of relationship we are to have with mammon.

“It is important that you use the wealth of this world to demonstrate your friendship with God by winning friends and blessing others. Then, when this world fails and falls apart, your generosity will provide you with an eternal reward.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:9‬ ‭TPT‬‬

Ok so according again to Jesus himself, his people are to use the wealth of this world to be a blessing (as our covenant through Abraham declares) and to express our loyalty and friendship to God!

Then this scripture goes on to declare that WHEN this world falls apart,……. Wait…. what???

Yes WHEN not IF.

The problem with a lot of the church in this day is that so many have been positioned in deception by way of a self serving gospel, that when listening to words like this and when someone begins to point out these kind of scriptures, they reject it as conspiracy theories! It might sound laughable but it’s true!

We can’t pick and choose what scriptures we think are sound to match our worldly polluted ideology.

Jesus himself said WHEN IT FAILS. Money will fail you if it’s your God.

Something that holds no preeminence in your life has no power to fail you. Only when you serve it it does.

Jesus’ promise to us is that He will never fail us nor leave us!

I heard a preacher say the other day concerning a decision that they were faced with. They said “well if I have to do such and such, then I will just pray no evil will touch me! We have to be people of faith!”

I’m like wait…. what?

The bible says do not tempt the Lord your God! Whatever is not of faith is of sin!

This is the problem!! That’s not faith at all. That’s saying if I was told to jump off a bridge or else I will loose this or that, then I’ll just jump and ask God to soften my landing and save me! This is madness! I’m sorry but that’s not faith at all!

We have so much mixture of the world in the church that true faith isn’t even recognisable anymore.

True faith is standing like Shadrach, Meshac and Abednigo. And the scripture even says that they were prepared to die if the Lord decided not to rescue them. They weren’t playing Russian Roulette faith! No it was pure faith!

It wasn’t conditional with compromise! Im here to tell you folks it’s those who are willing to stand in allegiance to Jesus that will be protected from the hour of trial that comes on the earth.

We are in a mini hour of testing, it is a fortifying for the hour of true battle which is to come. Those who have stood through the fire of God will be able to withstand any fire the enemy would try throw at them.

Isaiah 43:2

“When you pass through the waters, I will be with you, and through the rivers, they will not overwhelm you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned or scorched, nor will the flame kindle upon you.”
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Is this true or not?

I encourage you today, cut the puppet strings that mammon has on your life, that says dance now, bow here, freak out now, conform here, betray there, sell your self out here, worry about tomorrow there, fear lack now.

Jesus actually said it’s the heathen’s that hold this posture. (Matthew 6)

Are we heathens or true believers?

We are in an hour where we are being FORCED to declare which side we stand.

Do you serve God or Mammon?"

Anita Alexander
 
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I decided I would follow catholic church instead as I have already been baptised orthodox and if I want I can follow orthodox church but I will go to test catholic church to be catechumen to try to obey what they say remembering I can do all things through christ who strengthens me that I will accept to be catechumen incase that I will accept it as truth unless proven later false and then seek rebaptism from one who will hopefully understand and if not atleast seek to be chrismated unless they allow.

Jeremiah 29:13
And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.
 
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Such may be true but can be confusing to seem to say you can have a relationship with christ while not identifying as christian but you cant. Jesus says no other name given among men by which we must be saved. He who believes not be damned which they probably mean what you were didnt matter if you believed but is confusing.

It is necessary to believe Jesus is God as below verses and others says you need to believe in the Son of God and the scriptures are clear who the Son of God is that He is God as bible says all things were created by the word and the word became flesh. So the meaning to believe in the Son of God means to believe in Him for who He said He is God. So as one must seek to confess Jesus and seek to follow Him incase one has not chance to call on christ if that is all one can do what one must confess is that christ is God and the only way to heaven.

Such belief is necessary because one must acknowlege that because all have sinned against God there can be no forgiveness unless God pays our infinite debt to take away our sins that God has made it necessary to believe as He has provided for them to hear about it that it becomes sin to not acknowledge we can not be saved by ourselves because our sin earns wages of death for we have sinned.

Because we owe a debt that if we refuse to believe we owe a debt we could not pay to believe what He did it becomes sin that can not be forgiven because it is a willful choice to choose not to repent of something is possible to do or is unforgivable because one is commiting a sin that is eternal because one is rejecting the only sacrifice that is possible to take away all sin eternally but I think is because it is a choice to do something evil to refuse to believe in what He has done and turn to Him to be made worthy of what He has done because you need to show commitment to Him to honour Him to show to Him He is worthy in your eyes of trust to be worthy to be reconciled because one sinned against Him as that is worthy of punishment for that is a sin among some sins not repented of that deserve punishment.

For gospel is to believe christ died and was resurrected for our salvation but such belief means nothing because it is not possible unless one believes He is God.

John 20:31
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

1 John 5:13
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

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Luke 16:9-13
9 “And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when
you fail, they may receive you into an everlasting home. 10 He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. 11 Therefore if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? 12 And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own?
13 “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”

It seems this means you cant live for sake of gaining money for the purpose of living just for self to consume more than need so that when you are living for that more than need you are serving it so that it replaces serving God so it must not be master to replace serving God and sharing money you dont need.

Matthew 6:24-34
24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Do Not Worry
(Luke 12:22–31)
25 “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
28 “So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

It seems we are forbidden once we are disciples of christ from seeking for our needs of tommorow that we should seek God righteousness which means to study bible and serve christ then He will give us work for our needs now and we should do that that we may focus on serving God though we can save what we earn tommorow for needs but not work further because of worrying about tommorow needs.

But if we are rich we can still be saved but one should be rich in good works and from now on not worry for other needs of tommorow if we have what we need now but seek to focus on the kingdom.

Colossians 3:23-24
23 And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, 24 knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ.
 
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The gospel is the power of God for salvation for the true faith makes way to obey the rest of christ teaching later that faith comes first and saves if you are doing what you can to do works christ said.

Romans 5:1-11
1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our
Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Christ in Our Place
6 For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Mark 10:27-31
27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”
28 Then Peter began to say to Him, “See, we have left all and followed You.”
29 So Jesus answered and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel’s, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions—and in the age to come, eternal life. 31 But many who are first will be last, and the last first.”
 
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I change my mind that I decided to trust God not to follow catholic church to focus on preaching the gospel and teaching to obey christ as I understand it and seeking better understanding if my understanding is too much addition to what actually needs to be done but for now to teach to obey as I believe but if others are worried they can follow catholic church.
 
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I decided actually to accept orthodox church if can enlighten on the full path to following christ to be safe but still visit other churches that I teach to be safe to follow orthodox church is safe though not knowing for sure it is required but if it shows me full way will assume you need orthodox church and I will follow only orthodox church if it shows me full way that unless proven for sure others know the full way and that God confirms He accepts them then not follow only orthodox church.
 
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I decided to trust God that following Him without the church is sufficient that I seem to already know the way sufficient and I will seek better understanding if my understanding is too much addition to what actually needs to be done but in mean time assume must follow that and I will preach Him but if others are worried they can follow orthodox and or catholic church to find out if they like that it fully follows.
 
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I believe it important to explain that it is right to trust God that one does not earn salvation by doing something that can not be done in a moment such that if you lose opportunity to give even anything you can still be saved by calling on the Lord if that is all one can do but you may not get opportunity to repent of not seeking to do that you should be seeking to give much you can that is safe to do but it could be such is only required to be saved on death but otherwise can still be saved if you believe and call on the Lord in world to come and if you lose opportunity to do works such as help someone who asks you for help but you are not at moment of death where you know you will die you can be saved if you are alive to repent of not doing that that you would wish to if have time and you call on Jesus.
 
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Actually it is more right to trust christ that salvation is free gift but one must be repentant and be profitable servant.One way or safest way includes preaching that you dont earn by money or seeking to sell your possesions that such may be required only to be useful disciple and saved on death.

Though if you have money and there is someone who seeks your help you have to seek to help but even if you lose opportunity to help but you are sorry that you wish to you can be saved.But you may not get that opportunity even to call on the Lord in repentance so should help when one who is in need if you dont know for a fact he is not.

You should do so because you may die when not seeking and if you dont die it will be done sometimes or person was not seeking that God may not let one die until it is possible to do when seeking to die straight after without opportunity to seek.
 
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Actually it is more right to trust christ that salvation is free gift but one must be repentant and be profitable servant and one way or safest way includes preaching that you dont earn by money or seeking to sell your possesions that such may be required only to be useful disciple and saved on death but if you have money and there is someone who seeks your help you have to seek to help but even if you lose opportunity to help but you are sorry that you wish to you can be saved but you may not get that opportunity even to call on the Lord in repentance so should help when one who is in need if you dont know for a fact he is not because you may die when not seeking and if you dont die it will be done sometimes or person was not seeking that God may not let one die until it is possible to do when seeking to die straight after without opportunity to seek.
With no punctuation, your post was a little tricky to understand, but I think you are saying that salvation is a free gift, depending on the Lord Jesus Christ. Having come to Him in repentance and faith, we are saved, and our salvation should show itself in how we live our lives. If that is what you meant, I agree with you.

Could I request that you try to split your posts into sentences, so that it is easier to understand what you are saying? Thank you.
 
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Yes such should be understood but my point was that it is free gift that you do not need to give certain amount of money to earn maybe to be saved on death as way of doing. For christ does not ask for most your money but if you have true faith you will seek to help all who ask your help with what you have.

However to be saved staightaway to be received in heaven straightaway christ does ask to give alot what you dont need for businesses for He said make friends by unrighteous mammon that when you fail they may receive you into an everlasting home.

I meant riches but includes to live your life right in all aspects to help all who would be seeking or you are personally responsible to help and seeking some of each who are needy even without riches such as hungry in any way stranger naked in anyway thirsty in anyway sick in anyway and in prison in anyway.

Thankyou. I have done what I can to break into sentences
 
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Yes that is what I am saying. Thankyou.I have done what I can to break into sentences
Thank you very much. I hope you didn't take offence at my suggestion, because my only wish there was that your posts would become clearer to myself and others. Thanks again.
 
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