Col 2:14 Believers sin ordinances/penalties blotted out

[BrotherJJ]

1 Jn 3:4 Sin is a transgression of Gods Law:

Ok, all have broken God's law (Rom 3:23).

No one can say he isn't a sinner until some means is provided (not to take away the law) but to remove the sin, which is the transgression of the law.

Faith placed in Jesus's sin payment & resurrection takes away/removes ALL the believers' sin (Jn 1:19, Rev 1:5). Once our sins have been removed, there is no transgression of the law.

Written to believers see Col 1:12:

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and "took it out of the way", nailing it to his cross;

The verse states Christ payment on the cross "TOOK" < (Past Tense) the handwriting of ordinances that were against/contrary to the believer out of the way.

By fulfilling the law's required wage for sin [Jesus PAID/fulfilled the laws required wage/payment (Rom 6:23) for sin. By doing so, for the believer, sin penalties invoked [Deut 28] for breaking the law, are blotted out at conversion & imputed onto Him. [Find this process Lev 4 & Rom 4]

The proof Christ's sin atonement/payment was accepted by The Father is Jesus' resurrection. Because Christ is our eternal High Priest (Heb 5:6) & sin advocate (1 Jn 2:1). The removal of ALL sin penalties invoked [Deut 28] against every believer Past-Present-Future will forever remain in effect. BTW The believers sin advocate is also the final Judge (Jn 5:22). Verdict NOT GUILTY!

1 Cor 15
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
(MY NOTE: Jesus victory at Calvary blotted out the sin ordinances/penalties invoked in Mosaic law [Deut 28], for every believer & nailed them to His cross (Col 2:14)

Finally:
Anyone that doesn't, by faith, access Jesus's sin atoning sacrifice. Every jot & tittle of the law will be applied to them at the White Throne judgment.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

What does this mean for the believer in terms of their everyday lives though? Are they still bound to sin?

IOW, did Jesus' death only pay for sin or is there more to His sacrifice than just that?

 

[BobRyan]

1 Jn 3:4 Sin is a transgression of Gods Law:

Ok, all have broken God's law (Rom 3:23).

No one can say he isn't a sinner until some means is provided (not to take away the law) but to remove the sin, which is the transgression of the law. Faith placed in Jesus's sin payment & resurrection takes away/removes ALL the believers' sin (Jn 1:19, Rev 1:5). Once our sins have been removed, there is no transgression of the law.

Written to believers see Col 1:12:

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and "took it out of the way", nailing it to his cross;

The verse states Christ payment on the cross "TOOK" < (Past Tense) the handwriting of ordinances that were against/contrary to the believer out of the way.

By fulfilling the law's required wage for sin [Jesus PAID/fulfilled the laws required wage/payment (Rom 6:23 (A) due/required for sin]. By doing so, for the believer, sin penalties invoked [Deut 28] for breaking the law. Are blotted out at conversion & imputed onto Him. [Find this process Lev 4 & Rom 4]

The proof Christ's sin atonement/payment was accepted by The Father is Jesus resurrection. And because Christ is our eternal High Priest (Heb 5:6) & sin advocate (1 Jn 2:1). The removal of ALL sin penalties invoked [Deut 28] against every believer Past-Present-Future will forever remain in effect. BTW The believers sin advocate is also the final Judge (Jn 5:22). Verdict NOT GUILTY!

1 Cor 15
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
(MY NOTE: Jesus victory at Calvary blotted out the sin ordinances/penalties invoked in Mosaic law [Deut 28], for every believer & nailed them to His cross (Col 2:14)

Finally:
Anyone that doesn't, by faith, access Jesus's sin atoning sacrifice. Every jot & tittle of the law will be applied to them at the White Throne judgment.

I like this post -- I would just add Jesus' teaching in Matt 18

"I forgave you all that debt.. why then did you not forgive others as I fully forgave you"

 

[BobRyan]

What does this mean for the believer in terms of their everyday lives though? Are they still bound to sin?

IOW, did Jesus' death only pay for sin or is there more to His sacrifice than just that?

Good question.

Rom 8:4-16 says that by the Spirit we put to death the deeds of the flesh.
Rom 6 says "sin shall no longer be master over you"
1 John 2:1 says "sin not"
2 Cor 5 speaks of the "new creation" with old things passed away.
Heb 8 says that the New Covenant "writes the Law of God on the heart" just as it did in Jer 31:31-34

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Ok well since I've been out on block by the OP apparently for asking my question, I'll add that I agree with @BobRyan Jesus death wasn't just for our forgiveness. It was to free us from sin and the slavery we had to it.

John 8:34-36
Hebrews 2:14-18
2 Corinthians 3:17
Galatians 5:1

 

[Soyeong]

1 Jn 3:4 Sin is a transgression of Gods Law:

Ok, all have broken God's law (Rom 3:23).

No one can say he isn't a sinner until some means is provided (not to take away the law) but to remove the sin, which is the transgression of the law. Faith placed in Jesus's sin payment & resurrection takes away/removes ALL the believers' sin (Jn 1:19, Rev 1:5). Once our sins have been removed, there is no transgression of the law.

Written to believers see Col 1:12:

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and "took it out of the way", nailing it to his cross;

The verse states Christ payment on the cross "TOOK" < (Past Tense) the handwriting of ordinances that were against/contrary to the believer out of the way.

By fulfilling the law's required wage for sin [Jesus PAID/fulfilled the laws required wage/payment (Rom 6:23 (A) due/required for sin]. By doing so, for the believer, sin penalties invoked [Deut 28] for breaking the law. Are blotted out at conversion & imputed onto Him. [Find this process Lev 4 & Rom 4]

The proof Christ's sin atonement/payment was accepted by The Father is Jesus resurrection. And because Christ is our eternal High Priest (Heb 5:6) & sin advocate (1 Jn 2:1). The removal of ALL sin penalties invoked [Deut 28] against every believer Past-Present-Future will forever remain in effect. BTW The believers sin advocate is also the final Judge (Jn 5:22). Verdict NOT GUILTY!

1 Cor 15
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
(MY NOTE: Jesus victory at Calvary blotted out the sin ordinances/penalties invoked in Mosaic law [Deut 28], for every believer & nailed them to His cross (Col 2:14)

Finally:
Anyone that doesn't, by faith, access Jesus's sin atoning sacrifice. Every jot & tittle of the law will be applied to them at the White Throne judgment.

Either God's eternal law has been taken away and we can no longer transgress it or we are still under God's eternal law and can still transgress it, but it is contradictory for the law to not be taken away there no transgressions unless you are referring to someone who is living in perfect obedience to it.

 

[iwbswiaihl]

Question to anyone that would like to be free from the law of sin dead, the wages of sin is death, Romans 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Knowing that someone is saying, you are not saying that believer do not sin after their conversion are you? And I say to that, no, I am not saying that, but would say we don't want to keep on practicing sin in our lives because we are no longer ruled by that sinful nature, as shown in Romans 6:5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. 13And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. v14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. 15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? 17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. 18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness. One more passages, which tells all Christians that the law of sin death has clearly been taken away from us by the death of the Spotless Lamb of God at his sacrifice of his life on our behalf at Calvery which means: Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me "free from the law of sin and death". 3For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, "God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit". 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. All anyone has to do now to know that they have eternal life is to know that they do believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and have seen that their thoughts and lifestyle have changed since they first believed and confessed Him as Lord. If your life style and desires have not changed give him your life by faith and be welcomed into the family of God.

 

[HIM]

Question to anyone that would like to be free from the law of sin dead, the wages of sin is death,...... All anyone has to do now to know that they have eternal life is to know that they do believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and have seen that their thoughts and lifestyle have changed since they first believed and confessed Him as Lord. If your life style and desires have not changed give him your life by faith and be welcomed into the family of God.

What is your question?

 

[HIM]

Either there God's eternal law has been taken away and we can no longer transgress it or we are still under God's eternal law and can still transgress it, but it is contradictory for the law to not be taken away there no transgressions unless you are referring to someone who is living in perfect obedience to it.

Nice box. Neither.