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Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by redleghunter, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. KCfromNC

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  2. bhsmte

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    I know that and eventually that changed.

    It is human nature for someone hired to please those paying them. I have hired consultants in my day to evaluate specific partsnof business and strategy. I have found, they often blow things out of proportion, to justify the money you are spending on them.
     
  3. Rion

    Rion "Trigger Warning" is one of my triggers Supporter

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    I don't care about the narrative, I care about the truth.
     
  4. Rion

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    They hired the guy to collect data on several candidates, not just Trump, and never for some sort of dossier. I've posted as much I don't know how many times, with links. Basically, he took what he'd gathered so far on Trump and (apparently) used that as the very rough outline for the eventual DNC Dossier.
     
  5. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    How many months?

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    Let's look at the facts:

    Clinton and DNC retain legal firm with associated funds. Legal firm contracts Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS contracts Steele and Steele uses his Russian contacts to build a dossier which will be used to influence the 2016 presidential elections.

    All is fact above and admitted by Clinton as opposition research.

    All of the above is what Mueller is actually looking for but from the Trump campaign.
     
  6. redleghunter

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    The Free Beacon readily admitted they worked with Fusion GPS and did not fund the dossier.

    Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.
    Washington Free Beacon responds to report it funded Fusion GPS anti-Trump opposition effort
     
  7. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    This is just a minimum, mind you, but Paul Manafort left the campaign in August 2016.

    Then a wave of reports about Mr. Manafort’s own business dealings with Russia-aligned leaders in Ukraine, involving allegations of millions of dollars in cash payments and secret lobbying efforts in the United States, threw a spotlight on a glaring vulnerability for Mr. Trump: his admiration for President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.

    Buzzfeed made the dossier public in January 2017.

    Mueller was appointed in May 2017.

    So Trump-Russia connections (significant enough to get people fired) were swirling in the air at least 5 months or so before the dossier became public and almost a year before Mueller did anything at all.

    How come when we look at facts, suddenly there are no foreign spies and collusion with Russia?

    That's what's so funny. Your spin.
     
  8. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    We can add a couple new points on the timeline from even before these:

    May 2016: George Pappadopolous cleverly reveals "that Russia had "political dirt" on Hillary Clinton" to an Australian diplomat.

    July? 2016: The Australians alert their counterparts in the US about this conversation, after Wikileaks posted the hacked emails.

    This is why the FBI opened an investigation into Russian meddling in US elections.

    The first few pages of what later became 'the dossier' were not written until after Pappadopolous had spilled some beans. Indeed, GPS hired Steele only after the Wikileaks emails.

    So now that the evidence against it has gotten even stronger, can we please put to rest the uninteresting-even-if-it-were-true-(which-it-isn't) story about the dossier setting off the investigation?
     
  9. bhsmte

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    You know what gets me about the dossier, it was put together by Steele, from information he received from his Russian counterparts, he had contacts with.

    So, lets think about this for a second. Does anyone think those Russian folks who fed Steele information, didn't contact people at the high levels of Russian government (and probably Putin himself), that Steele was asking them for information about Trump? I would say, that is highly likely. Could it be that Russia was trying to do what they have always done and that is to create as much turmoil as possible in the United States for both parties and not just Clinton and the democrats?

    Putin wants the US to be as divided as possible and to cover his bases, why not work both ends of this, to create turmoil on both ends?
     
  10. Gadarene

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    It would seem consistent with what he is doing in Europe. I don’t think he necessarily cares who wins out, as long as his rivals are concerned with fighting each other rather than containing him.
     
  11. bhsmte

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    Yep, that was my point exactly. The more unstable any foe is, the better and the best way to do it, is to make both sides look bad.
     
  12. Gadarene

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  13. KCfromNC

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    Do you contact your government officials every time you answer questions asked by a private party?
     
  14. bhsmte

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    I am not an intelligence operative, living in Russia.
     
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