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Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by redleghunter, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No, just old news.
     
  2. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Fusion is fighting turning over their financial records. Considering the type of business they are in they really don't have a choice. They have to force the government into forcing them to turn it over.
    When they do, we just may find out who originally hired them to check out Trump and his people.
     
  3. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    Actually two larger parts which were not reported previously by the MSM.

    Summary of the missing pieces:

    -HRC campaign
    -DNC
     
  4. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    Which ones?
     
  5. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    Never acted on.

    Source please.(other than mama jones)

    Like what?

    As we now know is a phony document.

    The best compilation of false narrative stories over the past 12 months.
     
  6. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    Will be interesting when named. But the cool $9 mil was from Dem war chests.

    Now that would be illegal. That is tin foil hat country right there. Or if you have a source would love to see it.

    As in whom? Podesta and Hillary Clinton?
     
  7. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    Seems their 'issues' are very complex given their Russian ties.

    This July 27th article was written before the Uranium One news explosion this week:

    The opposition research firm that produced the explosive dossier alleging ties between the Trump campaign and Russia issued a statement Thursday denying that it needs to register as a foreign agent, or that it broke the law in not doing so last year.

    "Fusion GPS has complied with the law," the statement said. "It is a matter of public record that Fusion GPS worked for and under the supervision of an American law firm to provide support for civil litigation in New York. It was not required to register under FARA, and it did not spread false information about William Browder or Sergei Magnitsky."

    Browder — a former hedge fund manager who spearheaded the passage of the Magnitsky Act after his tax lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky, died in a Russian prison in 2009 — alleged in a complaint filed with the Treasury Department last year that Fusion's work for the US law firm BakerHostetler violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act because it served Russian government interests.

    The chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, picked up on that complaint and wrote a letter to the Justice Department in March asking whether Fusion GPS and its cofounder, Glenn Simpson, was being investigated for a potential FARA violation.

    BakerHostetler was hired last year by Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya to represent a Cyprus-based Russian holding group named Prevezon that had been accused of money laundering by the US government. Browder was targeted by Simpson, BakerHostetler, and Veselnitskaya, he claims, because he told the government that Prevezon laundered money that was stolen as part of the $230 million tax fraud scheme that Magnitsky uncovered.

    Notice the names involved with Fusion GPS and the lawyers they represented. Some a part of the Russian money laundering Uranium One racketeering.

    Firm behind Trump-Russia dossier issues rare statement saying it 'complied with the law'


    Natalia Veselnitskaya....remember that name? She was the one who supposedly met with Donny Jr. to discuss dirt on Hillary. However, she is connected with the law firm Fusion represented. The same Fusion who hired foreign spies to dig up dirt on Trump.

    Therefore, some were correct in the past. There is Russian collusion....Fusion GPS, the DNC and the HRC campaign.

    To directly address your quote? Fusion had too many fingers in the Russian pie out and in the open for the HRC campaign not to know they had foreign dealings with Russians under indictment. Under indictment for a Uranium deal Hillary and Justice pushed through before the investigation was complete.
     
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  8. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    If anyone forgot who Natalia Veselnitskaya is this should clear it up a bit:

    THE CURIOUS CASE OF NATALIA VESELNITSKAYA

    Veselnitskaya if one remembers was here on a visa expedited by Loretta Lynch.

    Interesting article by Bloomberg here:

    Russian Money Talks. America Was All Ears.

    Then a Business Insider article laying out all the connections in 2015, which until now was just brushed off:

    The Clinton Foundation received millions from investors as Putin took over 20% of US uranium deposits

    And more recently:

    Firm behind Trump-Russia dossier issues rare statement saying it 'complied with the law'
     
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  10. essentialsaltes

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    The dossier did not launch the investigation.

    "As early as spring 2015, US intelligence agencies started overhearing conversations in which Russian government officials, some within the Kremlin, discussed associates of Donald Trump"

    That doesn't make a lick of sense. US intelligence agencies gained information about Russia/Trump in 2015. This is an early antecedent of the investigation. The dossier didn't exist until 2016. The US government didn't learn of its own information through the dossier and start an investigation. It was already collecting that information.
     
  11. redleghunter

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    You mean the already debunked information?
     
  12. Hank77

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    Thanks for this article, I don't remember reading this one. I knew some of the info. in it.
    I don't know, it's all very convoluted and some of the law doesn't seem to be clear enough. We'll see, how it all turns out.
     
  13. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Just as long as we're agreed that 2015 comes before 2016.
     
  14. KCfromNC

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    What does it matter? It was reported in Jan that the dossier was funded by first Republicans, then Democrats, then the FBI. How does knowing exactly who funded part of the research make any difference at all?
     
  15. KCfromNC

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    Just like the Steele dossier.

    Donald Trump and the mansion that no one wanted. Then came a Russian fertilizer king

    If you haven't heard of Manafort or Flynn you might want to do a bit of reading before jumping into a thread discussing Trump's Russia problem. A Timeline: Everything We Know About Paul Manafort’s Ties to Russia

    Source, please.

    The best compilation of false narrative stories over the past 12 months.[/QUOTE]
    You ask for sources but then dismiss them without saying why. It feels a lot like you really don't want answers.
     
  16. dmmesdale

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    Yeah why don't you ignore that also. Cherry picking. What about golden showers? Who paid for it.
    The Coming Russia Bombshells - WSJ
    There’s plenty yet to come with regard to the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Every senior Democrat is disclaiming knowledge of the dossier deal, leaving Perkins Coie holding the bag. But while it is not unusual for law firms to hire opposition-research outfits for political clients, it is highly unusual for a law firm to pay bills without a client’s approval. Somewhere, Perkins Coie has documents showing who signed off on those bills, and they aren’t protected by attorney-client privilege.

    Those names will matter, since someone at the DNC and at the Clinton campaign will need to explain how they somehow both forgot to list Fusion as a vendor in their campaign-finance filings. Some Justice Department lawyer is presumably already looking into whether this was a willful evasion, which can carry criminal penalties. It’s one thing to forget to list that local hot-dog supplier for the campaign picnic. It’s a little fishier when two entities both fail to list the firm that supplied them the most explosive hit job in a generation.
     
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  17. redleghunter

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    Some truth to that.

    The other thing is, it is legit to ask who paid for the work, because those putting the dossier together, can be motivated to put together, what their client wants to see. We are dealing with humans, not robots and this is the same reason, people will question if the tobacco company funded certain research into whether cigarette smoking is addictive, etc. etc.

    At the end of the day, the dossier is out there, so everything in it, should be independently verified with objective evidence. The dossier itself, in many parts, does not include verifying evidence.
     
  19. Truthfrees

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    posts have been removed for off topic/ flaming/goading
     
  20. Rion

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    So the "Republican Candidate" was actually a conservative newspaper, and the "funded the dossier" was actually funding opposition research that was eventually used to form the dossier? I'm so shocked.
     
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