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Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by redleghunter, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly my friend Supporter

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    Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research

    Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that led to the now-infamous dossier of allegations about President Donald Trump and Russia, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.

    The source said the law firm Perkins Coie, as part of its representation of the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained the intelligence firm Fusion GPS and entered "into an engagement for research services that began in April 2016 and concluded before the election in early November."
    The Washington Post was first
    to report the news Tuesday. {Poster comment: No other sources have been reporting this since February 2017}


    The newspaper, citing people familiar with the matter, said a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC hired Fusion GPS, which in turn hired former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, whose research makes up the document. The Post said Perkins Coie lawyer Marc Elias retained the research firm in April 2016 as the GOP primary was winding down and Trump was increasingly likely to clinch his party's nomination.
    CNN
    previously reported Fusion GPS's anti-Trump research was initially funded by anti-Trump Republicans during the GOP primaries, and Democrats began paying the research firm later on, after Trump became the presumptive nominee. The Washington Post reports that Fusion GPS hired Steele after the Democratic funding began and the general election picture grew clearer.


    Brian Fallon, the Clinton campaign's national press secretary and now a CNN political contributor, tweeted Tuesday that he wasn't aware of the connection between the campaign and the dossier authored by Steele, but "if I had, I would have volunteered to go to Europe and try to help him."
    "I have no idea what Fusion or Steele were paid but if even a shred of that dossier ends up helping Mueller, it will prove money well spent,"
    he tweeted.
    DNC communications director Xochitl Hinojosa said in a statement Tuesday: "Tom Perez and the new leadership of the DNC were not involved in any decision-making regarding Fusion GPS, nor were they aware that Perkins Coie was working with the organization. But let's be clear, there is a serious federal investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, and the American public deserves to know what happened."
    White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Tuesday that the news of the Clinton campaign and DNC funding the dossier research was "the real Russia scandal."
    "The real Russia scandal? Clinton campaign paid for the fake Russia dossier, then lied about it & covered it up,"
    Sanders tweeted.

    Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund Trump dossier research, report says - CNNPolitics

    The real Russian collusion.
     
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  2. redleghunter

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  3. SummerMadness

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    Calling something fake by people in 45's cabinet is a good indicator that is not fake, hence the reason why things in the dossier have been verified.
     
  4. redleghunter

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    One thing. The dossier may have exposed a Russian spy at the Russian embassy (from your source:

    But sources I know and trust have told me the US government identified Kalugin as a spy while he was still at the embassy.

    It is not clear if the American intelligence agencies already believed this when they got Steele's report on the "diplomat", as early as May 2016.

    But it is a judgment they made using their own methods, outside the dossier.

    A retired member of a US intelligence agency told me that Kalugin was being kept under surveillance before he left the US.

    In addition, State Department staff who dealt with Russia did not come across Kalugin, as would have been expected with a simple diplomat.

    "Nobody had met him," one former official said. "It's classic. Just classic [of Russian intelligence]."

    Last month, the McClatchy news website said he was under "scrutiny" by the FBI as he left the US. They did not report, as my sources say, that he was a member of one of Russia's spying organisations, the SVR or GRU.


    I am totally shocked the Russians would have spies at their American Embassy! Call the UN!

    Yet none of the bogus claims on Trump have been verified. That's because the dossier was a political witch hunt.

    Again, read the CNN article. The only campaign which colluded with the Russians was the Clinton campaign. They paid Fusion GPS and Fusion hired old Western cold warriors who were cozy with KGB old cold warriors.

    Now Fusion and agents at large are clamming up and pleading the 5th.
     
  5. Ringo84

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    What's Up With The Times Piece on Elias, Steele and Fusion GPS?

    Ringo
     
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  6. Rion

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    The fact that it has been publicly known for more than a year that the Fusion GPS investigation of Chimp’s ties to Russia began with funding from Republicans and was later funded by Democrats. This has been known since David Corn’s report in October 2016 and reported in numerous other reports since. This is never mentioned in the Times article.

    That's the claim, yet when congress tried to find out who funded it, it was the Democrats who protected Fusion.
     
  7. SummerMadness

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    That's a knee-jerk reaction because you are ignoring a key fact, it was a Republican-led effort, they initially paid for the report. What is uncovered in these reports is out of their control; the findings are supposed to be the whole point of the investigation.

    That findings in the report were paid for by both parties only further validates them. And just because everything has not been confirmed (yet), does not make the findings bogus. But we'll soon be hearing the tweet storm giving the 45's worshipers and bot-supporters marching orders for the continued disinformation campaign.
     
  8. KCfromNC

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    Protected them from what?
     
  9. Rion

    Rion “Progress, the religion of those who have none.” Supporter

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    Revealing who funded the research.
     
  10. bhsmte

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    I have no idea, is it legal to use campaign funds for something like this. I assume it was campaign funds being used.
     
  11. KCfromNC

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    Weird that democrats would be so interested in hiding the names of the Republicans behind it, but if it makes you feel better... Personally, I'm more interested in finding out if the claims in it are true but I guess if one doesn't any distraction is as good as any other.
     
  12. KWCrazy

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    Yet more criminal actions by the Clintons, which the corrupt liberals will, no doubt, find excuses to ignore.
     
  13. Rion

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    Because finding out if Fusion is lying would help reach a conclusion on that?
     
  14. KCfromNC

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    What claims would they be lying about that would change the validity of the dossier? Please be specific.
     
  15. KCfromNC

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    What crime are you alleging?
     
  16. essentialsaltes

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    Hiring a company to do opposition research? Perfectly legal. For that company to hire a foreign employee? Perfectly legal.

    (OTOH, having secret discussions with agents of foreign governments and lying about it may not be perfectly legal. We'll see.)
     
  17. KWCrazy

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    Paying a third party to plant fraudulent information on a political opponent is not opposition research. Using that information to launch a year long multi-million dollar investigation into something they knew never happened with the sole intent of damaging a political adversary is fraud. Selling US uranium to Russia in exchange for huge personal paybacks is bribery and treason. Using the resources of the US government to attack political opponents is a disgusting abuse of power and a violation of every oath of office from everyone involved.

    If it doesn't bother you that the people who authored the fake dossier spent millions of taxpayer dollars to investigate what they knew was a lie doesn't bother you then please do not post to me again ever.
     
  18. Ringo84

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    The uranium deal story was planted by an opposition research firm by Breitbart and Bannon:

    https://www.salon.com/2017/10/25/ho...-ginned-up-the-hillary-clinton-uranium-story/

    Caroline O. on Twitter


    FACT CHECK: Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?

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    Trump attacks San Juan mayor over hurricane response - CNNPolitics
    https://nypost.com/2017/10/16/trump-attacks-democrats-as-tax-reform-obstructionists/
    Trump Attacks Warriors’ Curry. LeBron James’s Retort: ‘U Bum.’
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    etc. etc.

    You were saying?
    Ringo
     
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  19. Hank77

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    What other funds would be used to dig up dirt on an opponent?
     
  20. bhsmte

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    Funds that were not donated by citizens
     
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