Church of England backs Women Bishops!!!

[Decanus]

BBC News - Church of England backs women bishops

More news to come i'd imagine.

 

[Targaryen]

I watched the live stream of Synod. Praise God that the mother church has moved in this direction!!!!!

 

[vespasia]

Its the right move at the right time for the right reasons.

A great deal of prayer has been happening behind the scenes.

 

[John Shrewsbury]

I am very pleased with the outcome of this vote.

 

[Shane R]

I hope this vote did not surprise anyone. The result was obvious to me before the first ballot was cast. Will this provide a surge to the continuing movement?

 

[ebia]

Will this provide a surge to the continuing movement?

It hasn't made a big difference here; I doubt it will in England.

 

[Targaryen]

It might make more difference to the ACNA....after all...they've opposed women ordinations and the like since breaking with TEC. They were friendly with the CofE but expect more radicalization.

 

[Gnarwhal]

It hasn't made a big difference here; I doubt it will in England.

Is there even much of a continuing movement at all outside of the United States? I hadn't heard much of any...

 

[Targaryen]

Good question that and one I have no answer to, but maybe they would feel a move to the Free Church of England or to either the RCC or one of the other protestant denominations in England would be the proper choice.

 

[mark46]

ACNA is split regarding women's ordination, with a diocesan option.

It might make more difference to the ACNA....after all...they've opposed women ordinations and the like since breaking with TEC. They were friendly with the CofE but expect more radicalization.

 

[graceandpeace]

Way to go, CoE!

 

[ContraMundum]

Is there even much of a continuing movement at all outside of the United States? I hadn't heard much of any...

Not really. They were mostly torpedoed by the Vatican's Ordinariate offer. I left because of it.

 

[ContraMundum]

BBC News - Church of England backs women bishops

More news to come i'd imagine.

This won't save the CofE from sliding into further obscurity. The C of E's problems are much deeper.

Years ago I would have felt deeply saddened by this, but I don't care now. As far as I can tell, there's not much actual Christianity left in the tank, and that's the real issue. Leaving the Gospel behind to play dress-ups (religious cosplay) will be the undoing of the C of E.

 

[PaladinValer]

I hope this vote did not surprise anyone. The result was obvious to me before the first ballot was cast. Will this provide a surge to the continuing movement?

Despite what a lot of Continuing Anglican groups and other Catholic churches like to say, there is no supporting data that the approval of women clergy, even to the level of the episcopate, has caused real droves of people to leave.

If anything, as many who leave, are replaced by those who come into for the same reason. My parish was just graced by a priest who was formerly a priest in the Roman Catholic Church, for example.

 

[PaladinValer]

It might make more difference to the ACNA....after all...they've opposed women ordinations and the like since breaking with TEC. They were friendly with the CofE but expect more radicalization.

Not really. They do not allow women bishops, but they do not have an issue with women priests; I know one.

Is there even much of a continuing movement at all outside of the United States? I hadn't heard much of any...

Most Continuing Anglican churches and communions are small, although they are mostly found, I think, here in the US. I'm sure a more knowledgeable person can better this reply.

Not really. They were mostly torpedoed by the Vatican's Ordinariate offer. I left because of it.

That is very unfortunate. My sympathies; I'm not sure the Vatican realizes how much worse they made the situation...

 

[WeakSaint]

An even more watered down English Church.

How much water can you add before the wine turns to red water?

 

[PaladinValer]

An even more watered down English Church.

How much water can you add before the wine turns to red water?

Welcome to STR, the Anglican/Old Catholic subforum here on CF.

Please refrain from attacking Anglican or Old Catholic groups in STR; we don't go into the Lutheran subforum and attack Lutheran groups and we ask the same respect

If, instead, there are questions of why the resolution passed and/or what theological basis we have for women bishops, that's fine, but this sort of offensive posting is not tolerable. As I see your membership is very new, I highly suggest reviewing CF rules: click here for a review, and note what is written under "Congregation Forum Restrictions and orthodox Christian Only Forums".

Thank you.

 

[ContraMundum]

That is very unfortunate. My sympathies; I'm not sure the Vatican realizes how much worse they made the situation...

Thanks bro. It did in fact end the Anglican walk for almost everyone I knew as a colleague. They are now either in the Ordinariate or in another tradition, or retired, or gone to glory. I know only two who are still calling themselves Continuers. I've gone into the service of another tradition.

 

[mark46]

I agree with your comments.

For example, many Catholics have moved to TEC because of its acceptance of women as clergy.

With regard to ACNA, I would say that it is a continuing disappointment for many that they cannot resolve this issue. If they were to take a clear position one way or the other, they would gain and lose members. More importantly, the issue would be behind them.

IMHO, it is not Anglo-Catholics who might leave CoE because of women priests. It is the evangelicals. The tensions between Anglo-Catholics and evangelicals have been there for centuries. Curiously, the Anglo-Catholics within CoE accept women priests and bishops.

Despite what a lot of Continuing Anglican groups and other Catholic churches like to say, there is no supporting data that the approval of women clergy, even to the level of the episcopate, has caused real droves of people to leave.

If anything, as many who leave, are replaced by those who come into for the same reason. My parish was just graced by a priest who was formerly a priest in the Roman Catholic Church, for example.

 

[Picky Picky]

I agree with your comments.

For example, many Catholics have moved to TEC because of its acceptance of women as clergy.

With regard to ACNA, I would say that it is a continuing disappointment for many that they cannot resolve this issue. If they were to take a clear position one way or the other, they would gain and lose members. More importantly, the issue would be behind them.

IMHO, it is not Anglo-Catholics who might leave CoE because of women priests. It is the evangelicals. The tensions between Anglo-Catholics and evangelicals have been there for centuries. Curiously, the Anglo-Catholics within CoE accept women priests and bishops.

Some Anglo-Catholics do. Many don't, and joined the conservative evangelicals in opposition. But it's perhaps true that the Anglo-Catholics have shown themselves more willing to trust the measures being taken to safeguard their position. Some conservative evangelicals also voted for the proposals in the same spirit, but you are right, I think, in discerning more worry about their future. On the whole, though, I expect the CofE to hold together as usual.