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Discussion in 'Deeper Fellowship' started by HTacianas, Jul 24, 2021.

  1. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

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    Please read this and compare it to the video below:

    2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.

    Pliny in a letter to Trajan, regarding the Christians, circa 112 AD: ... they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god...When this was over, it was their custom to depart and to assemble again to partake of food--but ordinary and innocent food.

    Gal 6:14 But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...

    1Co 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

    Heb 8:5 who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”

    Rev 8:3 Then another angel, having a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.

     
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  2. myst33

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    The tradition Paul could possibly mean in the context of the Lord's Supper only this:

    "While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take it; this is my body.” Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, and they all drank from it. “This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many,” he said to them."
    Mk 14:5

    So, they were regularly eating their dinner and He, during it, did this. Thats what the first church was also doing - having a dinner. Thats why Paul critized them for being drunk during that.

    Now, compare having a regular dinner with your friends (which is the tradition of Christ and of Pauline churches) to the ceremonial video :)
     
  3. tdidymas

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    2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.

    Traditions in this context means the teaching of the apostles, "whether by word or our epistle", which we have, preserved in the Bible. It has nothing to do with religious rituals which were passed down from Jews and embellished by many generations.

    Concerning the video, what's the purpose of someone praying verbally while someone else is singing? Doesn't Paul rebuke that kind of activity in 1 Cor., saying that people should minister one at a time for the edification of the congregation?
     
  4. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

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    Paul absolutely does not "rebuke that kind of activity" and there is no reason to contort what he said to mean anything of the sort. And I posted the quote from Pliny, who said of Christians of his time "they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god". Not that they would gathered and "sing", but they they would gather and "sing responsively". The video shows Christians singing "responsively". It is solid confirmation of the liturgy conducted by Christians in 112 AD.
     
  5. HTacianas

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    1Co 11:29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

    I don't think simply having dinner with your friends is going to lead to condemnation. Nor would a simple dinner be referred to as "the Lord's body".
     
  6. myst33

    myst33 Well-Known Member

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    It was not just a common dinner. It was a dinner in the church. The love feast /agape.
    Love Feast - History of the Early Church

    And they were being drunk during it while poor ones were hungry.

    How exactly the church in Corinth served the Lord's Supper during the agape feast, we do not know. But there was no known reason to do it differently or more ceremonialy than Jesus did it and to break this tradition/example He made.
     
  7. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

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    We do know how the Eucharist was celebrated. The same way it is today. The cup was blessed and shared. The bread was blessed and shared.

    1Co 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
     
  8. myst33

    myst33 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we know exactly how Jesus did it. This should be our main tradition.
     
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