Christian Artists that need to call it a day.

Sher · Jun 1, 2005

Wow. And then Double Wow. Some people are extremely negative. There are some bands out there that aren't my kind of music, but I don't think I've heard anybody who I've just said " okay he/she/they just need to stop trying ". Most of the bands mentioned here in this thread aren't that bad. If you think that the entire contemporary christian music business is that bad, stop listening to the music and don't spend your time dissing the artists cuz there are a lot of awesome artists that are part of it.

MoreInSorrow · Jun 1, 2005

Actually, that is the very reason many of us 'naysayers' HAVE stopped listening to CCM, because we think (and rightly so, IMO) that much of it is trite and contrived powder puff music, manufactured for the bubble we know as Christendom.

6string · Jun 1, 2005

MoreInSorrow said:
Actually, that is the very reason many of us 'naysayers' HAVE stopped listening to CCM, because we think (and rightly so, IMO) that much of it is trite and contrived powder puff music, manufactured for the bubble we know as Christendom.

This makes me sad.

I like a lot of CCM, many artists that have been listed, and I just don't see what you see - at least, certainly not as the majority. I generally listen to discs rather than the radio - perhaps I have just been fortunate in my selections.

But: I guess that's why there's chocolate and vanilla. And why some say the glass is half full, and some say it's half empty - while I wonder why they keep using such a large glass.

JC 101 FM · Jun 1, 2005

6string said:
Isn't that an issue for the radio stations, not the artists? Perhaps the question shouldn't be "Which artists should go out to pasture?" but "Which radio stations should change their lineup?"

How much does public opinion/feedback impact a Christian radio station? Is the programming entirely up to promotors?

At my radio station listener complains rule...it's the listeners who complain the most who have the most power...especailly when you are funded by those very same listeners. We don't have the power my friend.

6string · Jun 2, 2005

JC 101 FM said:
At my radio station listener complains rule...it's the listeners who complain the most who have the most power...especailly when you are funded by those very same listeners. We don't have the power my friend.

It sounds like the station is playing what your local listeners want to hear, then. If programming is based on listener feedback, then the right music is being played for your audience.

Perhaps you could start an "alternative hour" and play different stuff in hopes of gaining favor for what you like.

foo-oswald · Jun 2, 2005

6string said:
This makes me sad.

I like a lot of CCM, many artists that have been listed, and I just don't see what you see - at least, certainly not as the majority. I generally listen to discs rather than the radio - perhaps I have just been fortunate in my selections.

But: I guess that's why there's chocolate and vanilla. And why some say the glass is half full, and some say it's half empty - while I wonder why they keep using such a large glass.

You're right about the majority. People- myself included- who are disgruntled over what is being played on 99.9% of CCM stations are undoubtedly a minority.

I wouldn't say the glass is half empty. It's just half full of...well...

moreinsorrow said:
trite and contrived powder puff music, manufactured for the bubble we know as Christendom.

JC 101 FM · Jun 2, 2005

6string said:
It sounds like the station is playing what your local listeners want to hear, then. If programming is based on listener feedback, then the right music is being played for your audience.

We'll never know for sure...25% of the population attends church, but of that 25% only 3% listen to Christian Radio, and of that 3% that listen, 3% complain. What it boils down to is this...that one mean and lonely person no one likes is the one calling to complain about the music and ruining it for everyone.

6string said:
Perhaps you could start an "alternative hour" and play different stuff in hopes of gaining favor for what you like.

Again, another listener telling me how to program a radio station...

6string · Jun 2, 2005

JC 101 FM said:
Again, another listener telling me how to program a radio station...

Forgive me for trying to offer a solution. It was meant to be constructive. Finding a way to introduce people to new music is your goal, but when a suggestion is made, it's met with sarcasm? Jiminy crickets, bub, keep whining about your problems and dissing those who try to help - see how fast your solutions arrive.

I was also going to suggest that you make it clear to your listeners, all of your listeners, how important feedback is to your programming, and open lines of communication for them - but what could I possibly know? How could it benefit you to hear from anybody except those that complain? What was I thinking, trying to help a fellow Christian?

WintarNaht · Jun 2, 2005

Chill out one and all. This has really gotten out of hand, not to mention off topic! Lets just take it easy!

6string · Jun 2, 2005

Argyle Park said:
Chill out one and all. This has really gotten out of hand, not to mention off topic! Lets just take it easy!

Thanks for stepping in. I felt something strong needed to be said - and I did it in another thread as well - because some folks seem to go out of their way to be harsh and condescending when there really is no need for it. I see posts that drip with venom and they need to be pointed out - we need to be accountable when we say harmful things.

JC 101 FM · Jun 2, 2005

6string said:
Forgive me for trying to offer a solution. It was meant to be constructive. Finding a way to introduce people to new music is your goal, but when a suggestion is made, it's met with sarcasm? Jiminy crickets, bub, keep whining about your problems and dissing those who try to help - see how fast your solutions arrive.

I was also going to suggest that you make it clear to your listeners, all of your listeners, how important feedback is to your programming, and open lines of communication for them - but what could I possibly know? How could it benefit you to hear from anybody except those that complain? What was I thinking, trying to help a fellow Christian?

How about I tell you how to your job which I have no experience in...

WintarNaht · Jun 2, 2005

6string said:
Thanks for stepping in. I felt something strong needed to be said - and I did it in another thread as well - because some folks seem to go out of their way to be harsh and condescending when there really is no need for it. I see posts that drip with venom and they need to be pointed out - we need to be accountable when we say harmful things.

Yes the tounge is the hardest of all to tame. I am always wishing I could take back things I've said. Oh, well.

AmandaT · Jun 2, 2005

JC 101 FM said:
How about I tell you how to your job which I have no experience in...

6string wasn't telling you how to do your job. He was trying to offer you solutions that your station could use to get music you like better on your station. No need to get defensive...

6string · Jun 2, 2005

JC 101 FM said:
How about I tell you how to your job which I have no experience in...

When I hear people complain, I like to try to help them find solutions. That's what I feel a good Christian does.

And yes, come to my work and give me advice - I'd welcome it. An outsider's point of view could give me a whole new perspective, rather than re-hashing the same old input day in and day out. I'm not so close-minded as to think I can't learn from someone just because they are in a different vocation.

If you don't want comments on your job, then don't bring your job to the board.

Add:

Y'know, 101, your responses really burn my backside. I posted questions because I was genuinely interested, and posted responses because I wanted to help - you could have ignored them, or said "Thanks, that doesn't work in my industry" - but to be so negative and downright rude is just totally uncalled for. I'll be praying for you, man - something aint right in your world, and I pray God roots it out.

JC 101 FM · Jun 3, 2005

6string said:
When I hear people complain, I like to try to help them find solutions. That's what I feel a good Christian does.

It's called venting...I never once asked for any help, I do my job very well thank-you.

6string said:
Y'know, 101, your responses really burn my backside. I posted questions because I was genuinely interested, and posted responses because I wanted to help - you could have ignored them, or said "Thanks, that doesn't work in my industry" - but to be so negative and downright rude is just totally uncalled for. I'll be praying for you, man - something aint right in your world, and I pray God roots it out.

I'm ignoring this part of your post...

SavedByTheShoes · Jun 3, 2005

i love amy grant and geny owens!

Mashley · Jun 6, 2005

holyrokker said:
The Katinsa
Scott Krippayne
Kutless
Rachel Lampa
LaRue
Greg Long
Russ Lee
Brian Littrell
Jody McBrayer
Mitch McVicker
MercyMe
Trevor Morgan
Cindy Morgan
Nicole C Mullen

What's wrong with Kutless? They only have three cds. MercyMe is good too. My mom loves Nicole C. Mullen's music.

Mashley · Jun 6, 2005

JC 101 FM said:
Old and tired acts who are not producing good music and yet living on the name sake they built, are making harder for newer better acts to make it due to the lack of room on the radio for them. That's why bands should call it a day...

Somebody is still being touched by their music. Even if it's only one person, that's one more person being reached.

foo-oswald · Jun 6, 2005

JC 101 FM said:
I'm ignoring this part of your post...

Well, maybe you were, until you posted the above statement.

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