China Assigns Every Citizen A ‘Social Credit Score’ To Identify Who Is And Isn’t Trustworthy

[redleghunter]

Thought this an interesting but not surprising development.

BEIJING (CBSNewYork) — China is rolling out a high-tech plan to give all of its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score, based on how they behave.

But there are consequences if a score gets too low, and for some that’s cause for concern, CBS2’s Ben Tracy reported Tuesday.

More: China Assigns Every Citizen A 'Social Credit Score' To Identify Who Is And Isn't Trustworthy

 

[Occams Barber]

Thought this an interesting but not surprising development.

BEIJING (CBSNewYork) — China is rolling out a high-tech plan to give all of its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score, based on how they behave.

But there are consequences if a score gets too low, and for some that’s cause for concern, CBS2’s Ben Tracy reported Tuesday.

More: China Assigns Every Citizen A 'Social Credit Score' To Identify Who Is And Isn't Trustworthy

Can we adapt this for use on CF?
OB

 

[ChangesForRachel]

Grace and peace to you.

Do you have any questions?

Beware of the mark of the beast.

 

[HereIStand]

This is a scary development.

 

[seventysevens]

Ever see that TV show "Person of Interest"
There really is a AI computer system,just like it that monitors everyone everywhere using facial recognition software that takes pics of people thousands of times a day , and this trend is growing quickly

 

[R. Hartono]

Remember when king David Made a census without God's permission then God was very angry because people belong to God only.

 

[Occams Barber]

This is a scary development.

Scary? Not really.

Many (most?) of us living in Western developed countries are already subject to a centrally controlled systematic measurement of our individual reliability and trustworthiness.

It's called a Credit Rating.
OB

 

[straykat]

Scary? Not really.

Many (most?) of us living in Western developed countries are already subject to a centrally controlled systematic measurement of our individual reliability and trustworthiness.

It's called a Credit Rating.
OB

Yay for me, I guess. I managed to avoid credit for all of these years.

I suppose you're right though. No one could tell if I was trustworthy or not.

 

[redleghunter]

This is a scary development.

Thinking about and praying for our persecuted brethren in China.

 

[Occams Barber]

Yay for me, I guess. I managed to avoid credit for all of these years.

I suppose you're right though. No one could tell if I was trustworthy or not.

Actually, not having a credit history can work against you since you have no way of demonstrating your creditworthiness.
OB

 

[straykat]

Actually, not having a credit history can work against you since you have no way of demonstrating your creditworthiness.
OB

I understand. I'm not worried about it. Not to bore you with my financial situation, but there's little I want, and I have enough to survive, thankfully.

 

[redleghunter]

Yay for me, I guess. I managed to avoid credit for all of these years.

I suppose you're right though. No one could tell if I was trustworthy or not.

Get one credit card with a lower limit, use it pay it off completely on time or early.

That will at least establish a positive credit history if you ever need to take a home, car or education loan.

Then when not using the credit card, put it in a ziploc bag, then fill an empty metal coffee can with water. Drop in the ziploc bag with credit card and put it in the freezer.

This way if you get an impulse to buy something you really don't need, you will have to wait for the metal can to thaw out.

Just some advice I heard from a finance advisor friend of mine.

 

[Occams Barber]

I understand. I'm not worried about it. Not to bore you with my financial situation, but there's little I want, and I have enough to survive, thankfully.

Then you'll like this quote:

“Neither a borrower nor a lender be
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man."

(Shakespeare's Hamlet. Act 1, Scene 3)
OB

 

[HereIStand]

Scary? Not really.

Many (most?) of us living in Western developed countries are already subject to a centrally controlled systematic measurement of our individual reliability and trustworthiness.

It's called a Credit Rating.
OB

A credit score can be used against someone in applying for a job, house, or car. China's social credit seems aimed at measuring loyalty to the government, and punishing dissenters.

 

[Occams Barber]

A credit score can be used against someone in applying for a job, house, or car. China's social credit seems aimed at measuring loyalty to the government, and punishing dissenters.

Acknowledging your 'seems to be' comment (IOW - we don't really know), are you suggesting that one use is morally superior to the other?
OB

 

[HereIStand]

Acknowledging your 'seems to be' comment (IOW - we don't really know), are you suggesting that one use is morally superior to the other?
OB

Yes.

 

[Occams Barber]

Yes.

I don't see either approach as particularly desirable but I'm cautious about picking the least worst.

I would naturally gravitate towards the Western version but I am acutely conscious that the cultural context is critical. Someone immersed in the Chinese culture may well see loyalty and conformity to the broader society as the greater good.

In this case I see no absolute rightness or wrongness in either approach. The issue is more around the wellbeing of the people involved.
OB

 

[seventysevens]

Scary? Not really.

Many (most?) of us living in Western developed countries are already subject to a centrally controlled systematic measurement of our individual reliability and trustworthiness.

It's called a Credit Rating.
OB

Initially the credit system for only for businesses to get loans to buy buildings and equipment and it was to show their business plan was real and worthy for a loan - it just morphed into consumer world when banks became aware how much more control over the worlds financial system they could have - now through electronic buying and selling it is easy to build a dossier on everyone that buys or sells anything- now with RFID tags being put into clothing during the manufacturing process person shirt can communicate with things like those large posters that advertise coming movies or concerts - rfid is being put into many things these days that can track people - medical science has even attached rfid tags to brain cells - this is far more advanced than most people realize

 

[jardiniere]

Thought this an interesting but not surprising development.

BEIJING (CBSNewYork) — China is rolling out a high-tech plan to give all of its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score, based on how they behave.

But there are consequences if a score gets too low, and for some that’s cause for concern, CBS2’s Ben Tracy reported Tuesday.

More: China Assigns Every Citizen A 'Social Credit Score' To Identify Who Is And Isn't Trustworthy

It's Whuffie.

 

[Truth7t7]

Thought this an interesting but not surprising development.

BEIJING (CBSNewYork) — China is rolling out a high-tech plan to give all of its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score, based on how they behave.

But there are consequences if a score gets too low, and for some that’s cause for concern, CBS2’s Ben Tracy reported Tuesday.

More: China Assigns Every Citizen A 'Social Credit Score' To Identify Who Is And Isn't Trustworthy

Scary development, the international community in the free world can't turn a blind eye to this one?

North Korea is hopefully getting on board, and China is jumping off the cliff?

Sanctions!