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That's what I was thinking when I read the post I was responding to.

There is not a scripture I can point to to figure out what you are talking about regarding "disappointing," but my question to you is scriptural and can be easily answered. So I'll ask you again, is a son of god, a god themselves? Yes, or no? See if you can find a scripture to use with your answer - that will be more impressive than your odd question about disappointing.
 
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There is not a scripture I can point to to figure out what you are talking about regarding "disappointing," but my question to you is scriptural and can be easily answered. So I'll ask you again, is a son of god, a god themselves? Yes, or no?
The angels are sons of God, they are not gods. We are the sons of the resurrection.
 
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You answer the question, not some video.
That was my answer, if you don't have time to watch a three minute video, I don't need the interrogation.
 
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That was my answer, if you don't have time to watch a three minute video, I don't need the interrogation.

It's not an interrogation, I've gotten viruses from opening other people's videos. So is a Christian a sinner or a son of God? You can just tell me what the video says
 
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It's not an interrogation, I've gotten viruses from opening other people's videos. So is a Christian a sinner or a son of God? You can just tell me what the video says
I think I'm a little confused at your dichotomy really.

Are you into that heresy of sinless perfection and such?
 
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I think I'm a little confused at your dichotomy really.

Are you into that heresy of sinless perfection and such?

You can answer with a scripture - that is if scripture is the foundation for what you believe. If you're into another gospel, then we can end this right here.
 
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You can answer with a scripture - that is if scripture is the foundation for what you believe. If you're into another gospel, then we can end this right here.
The question you were asking had a false premise, I addressed it, you kept asking questions. When I asked a question, you then appeal to scripture but don't use any. This is a common manipulation tactic in Pentecostal and Charismatic circles.
 
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The question you were asking had a false premise, I addressed it, you kept asking questions. When I asked a question, you then appeal to scripture but don't use any. This is a common manipulation tactic in Pentecostal and Charismatic circles.

You never explained what in the world you meant by "disappointing." Want to try again and stop the boo-hooing.
 
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You never explained what in the world you meant by "disappointing." Want to try again and stop the boo-hooing.

So you asked:
Is a son of god, a god themselves?
And then I asked:
So reverse logic, people who disappoint were never born again to begin with?

By disappoint, I meant if someone is born again but does not live up to the image of godhood, (thus disappoint) then does that mean they were a dud? (i.e. not saved)
 
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So you asked:

And then I asked:


By disappoint, I meant if someone is born again but does not live up to the image of godhood, (thus disappoint) then does that mean they were a dud? (i.e. not saved)

What does born again mean to you?
 
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I'm kind of done being lead around with the questions. Thanks tho.

Before you go, you obviously have some Bible studying to do so I'll give you the answer John 8:34-36.
 
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Before you go, you obviously have some Bible studying to do so I'll give you the answer John 8:34-36.
Heavenly Father, I confess this veiled malice and covetousness to be acknowledged as the most correct person as my own and my own sin in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

So be it.

1 John 1:9 in remembrance.
 
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Heavenly Father, I confess this veiled malice and covetousness to be acknowledged as the most correct person as my own and my own sin in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

So be it.

1 John 1:9 in remembrance.

The most correct person is Jesus and His words. John 8:34-36
 
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