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the significance of the number 40 and christ
3. galatians 3:19 is speaking about when the seed should come and remove the distinction between jew and gentile that upon believing both through faith become the seed of abraham.
2 corinthians 3:13-14 is speaking about the veil that is blinding the jews which can only be removed if they escape the bondage of the law (see galatians 4:21-31) and fully turn their hearts to christ. the declining glow of moses is a foreshadow of the declining law in the age of the apostles in the 1st century (hebrews 8:13; hebrews 10:9).
4. hebrews 8:6-7ff is comparing covenants and hebrews uses the prophecy from jeremiah. hebrews said that god is in the process of establishing the covenant spoken of in jeremiah - DO NOT read verses 6-7 without including verses 8-13 too. again look up hebrews 10:9 too, he removes the first then establishes the second. it is a process. the old covenant first has to run the full gamut of promises and prophecies to israel before it can pass away. christ said he is not going to leave one stone unturned in the law before it passes away matthew 5:17-18 & luke 21:22. this would also include "the hope of israel" (acts 24:14ff & acts 26:6ff) which is the resurrection "spoken through moses and the prophets" which "our twelve tribes earnestly serving god night and day hope to attain" see daniel 12:1-7 (the resurrection and passing of the law are contemporeous events see also 1 corinthians 15:54-56 & 2 corinthians 3:7).
i will respond to your 5 through 8 points later. this all for now.
random person,
1. I congratulate you on finally giving a proper rebuttal and halfway logical rebuttal at that, that is not really you but whoever did the writing on the significance on the number 40.
2. I understand types and some types and shadows you mention I agree with. I don't disagree with the significance of numbers. Then there are patterns and there are many that are true and then others that are not true.
If you take a system whether preterist, covenantal, or dispensational and stick right to every jot and tittle one can go awry on scripture when trying to reconcile all the scriptures.
3. Adam, Enoch, Noah, the patriarch, Joseph, Moses, David, Isaiah, Jonah, John etc. were types or shadows. A true bible type has an antitype. Paul calls Christ the second Adam, Enoch is a type of the pre-trib rapture because of being raptured out before the judgement of the flood in Adam's day.
Abraham and salvation of grace and the healing of the land and the blessings of generations as the sand of the sea, etc. Moses said there would be prophet like him and do miracles etc. Joseph and the whole element of the world situation and the 7 years of plenty and famine, David and the KOH reign, Isaiah as the type of Christ and Jonah being in the belly of the whale and John being a figure of Elias and on and on. One can even find significance of specific scriptures in two different places in the new and old that talk about the same thing. This doesn't mean all the information that was given in the article was correct.
4. Galatians 3:19: Till the seed should come has to be taken in the immediate context and should have an antitype specific to that verse and meaning.
It was specifically talking about the Mosaic law being added because of sin and the Mosaic law period ending when the physical seed should come to whom the promise was made which was salvation. The law was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Jesus was the mediator between God and man at Calvary and now the law was not the schoolmaster and Jesus was our redemption and teacher.
Some take this verse as being the law discontinued when Christ was born and Christ could teach the new covenant. This is not true in the light of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ because he didn't preach this and the disciples didn't understand it fully until after the resurrection of Christ itself.
So I don't disagree with the mystery of the church happening at Calvary but it didn't come to full fruition till 8 to 10 years after the Day of Pentecost.
5. 2 Corinthians 3:13-14; That veil is the reason they are blind and the removal of that blindness is the yoke of bondage of the Mosaic law which they tried to be justified by doing the commandments of the Mosaic law such a physical circumcision and physical baptism etc. Paul contrast in Galatians 5:1-7 the difference between the liberty of the new covenant and the yoke of bondage in the Mosaic law. Physical circumcision doesn't profit anything by keeping the commandment of being blessed like in the old testament. They had to keep that commandment in order to be righteous and justified before God because it was a type and shadow. Under the new covenant the spiritual circumcision not made with hands but by Christ who is the new covenant and we are righteous and justified by and through him.
Paul said in verse 3; For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. There is nothing wrong with even a gentile to be physically circumcised but not according to the law of Moses obligation and understanding of being justified concerning salvation. This law mindset and obligation being kept means one has to perform all the law concerning salvation and this is why Paul said in verse 4,
Christ is become of no effect uinto you, whosoever of you are justifed by the law: ye are fallen from grace.
6. Galatians 4:21-23; that whole passage is an allegory about the bondmaid and the free woman, the two covenants which are the old and the new, the law of Moses from Mt. Sinai which refers to Agar in Arabia which is the Mosaic covenant that gendereth bondage.
The bondwoman was Hagar that had Ishmael who was the child of bondage and the leader of the Arabs who the hand would always be against. The free woman was Sarah of which Isaac was born who was the seed of the promise of Abraham.
The allegorical meaning is that the law of Moses though holy and good and the best that God gave to Israel at the time had weaknesses and would have to be replaced so redemption would be completed and perfected by the sinless lamb of God.
What was abolished was the law for it was a ministration of death not a ministration of the Spirit and freedom and whose glory was more glorious than the old covenant. That which was written and engraven in stones was the 10 commandments and it was a ministration of death in verse 7. It was life in the law days but only if one were able to keep it. Today, we have the power of an endless life and do not have the keep the whole law of Moses or the ten commandments in the light of that ethic which you don't seem to understand and there fore you don't comprehend why the Mosaic law was abolished or either why you believe that just certain parts of the old covenant were done away with. The perception of your assessment and what can be deduced from this line of thinking is basically that we live under the law of Moses but without the sacrificial and civil laws concerning redemption and the Sanhedrin of the civil law leaving the moral law aspect not being abolished. This is why we have the school of thoughts of Sabbath day keeping etc. and legalism of keeping the commandments.
I already rebutted your context of Hebrews 8:13 and 10:9, all you have done is disagree and gave improper hermeneutics.
7. I have already explained Hebrews 6-13 multiple times in my posts. I have also already discussed the new covenant happening at Calvary for the whole world where and when the new covenant replaced the old covenant right then and there when Christ died and then arose which was guaranteed the resurrection.
They mystery of the Christ came by way of the new covenant but didn't come to fruition until 8-10 years later when Peter was given the vision of the clean and the unclean.
The KOH under the KOH reign message promised to Israel was not happening in the early church. Christ said it was not for the disciples to know or anyone else because he didn't know because it was the father's business. You can believe this as your opinion but not scriptural fact no matter how much you think the 40 years from Christ death to 70 A.D. Most theologians believe Christ died in 33 A.D. which would mess up your 40 years theory.
The callings and covenant of Israel are connected to Abraham and David and the restoration of all things and even Peter said that in Acts 3:19 and saw many things that were to happen in that day of the KOH being established such as the tongues on the Day of Pentecost but Joel's prophecy in full was linked to the land being healed and freed from the curse of sin and Peter knew this had not happened and he knew they didn't become the head of the nations. People didn't completely everything and how it was to unfold gradually. He was still astonished at the gentiles receiving the like gift of the Holy Ghost and being on the same level as the jews which wasn't under the KOH message where the jews were to be at the head of the nations.
8. Matthew 5:17-18 was during the Mosaic law period and the offer of the KOH and the KOG message to the jews only before the cross because the gentiles didn't even have a covenant at that time and Romans says that it was because of Israel's rejection that the gentiles were able to be saved. The KOH was not offered to the jewish nation in the early church. If you think so give an actual scripture.
9. Acts 24:14 and 26:6: The first is Paul speaking to the governor and dispelled the notion of the jews hearing him disputing in the temple etc. and that they cannot prove anything against him of what they accused him of. What they called heresy was not what Paul believe because he believed in what was written in the law and the prophets. The next verse was about the resurrection of the just and unjust. This had nothing to do with keeping the law of Moses or prevents the Mosaic law being abolished in keeping the commandments as a rule of life by that ethic.
The second is that Paul was being accused of not believing the promise of the nation of Israel concerning the 12 tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. This is speaking of the promises through the covenants of Abraham and David but they didn't want to do it through the new covenant of the resurrection but through the keeping of the Mosaic law. Verse 8: Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead? They were trying to be justified by the Mosaic law and the keeping of that law and not the new covenant. This is how people fall from grace.
10. Daniel 12:1-7 was future and still is future about the resurrection of the just and the unjust. The 1260 years will be the first part of the tribulation and the last part will be 1260 days also. Read Revelation 10:7 and 11:1-3.
The passing of the law of Moses as a rule of life was done away with at Calvary. This is a separate context of prophecies in the old testament that are still yet to be fulfilled. This doesn't destroy the context of Moses no longer being in effect as a rule of life.
There was law before the jews and the Mosaic law but you wouldn't say prophecies before the law are dismissed because that law as a rule of life was done away with. That is a contradiction.
11. Last, going back to the types and shadows. Your whole list about the 1000 years is true in the type of wording and context and that is plain for the most part.
The usage of the 1000 years is plain also that it is not a spiritualization of the context of 1000 years being as one day as the main point. The 1000 years as one day can be be true according as to how God looks at time. However, in Revelation 20 is specific to an actual period of 1000 years. This is because it is a specific time from the end of the tribulation when the beast and the Antichrist are thrown into the lake of fire Revelation 19:19-20. Then the angel comes down from heaven to chain the devil and throw him bound into the bottomless pit so he can't deceive the nations for a thousand years. Verse 3 says until the 1000 years are up or no more and till it has been fulfilled: and after that he will be loosed for a season. The reason for being loosed after the 1000 years to stir up a rebellion of those who hate Christ but have been spared in the theocracy for living accordingly to the civil law. The 1000 years is so all sin and rebellion can be put down and then death will done away with. When he is loosed he has the rebellion of Gog and Magog and God the father will send fire from heaven to exterminate them immediately. This is not the same as when Christ comes back with the saints and angels to the battle of Armageddon for this will be 1000 years before for the purpose of setting up the kingdom. The rebellion after the 1000 years is for the purpose of what I already stated to fulfill 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. Also, Christ is already on earth and it is God the father who sends fire from heaven. This means they will not see the Father coming out of heaven at this time. The second coming is Christ coming from heaven with his saints and angels and Revelation 1:7 says Behold he cometh.....they will look on them who they have pierced. After this will have Satan thrown into the lake of fire where the beast and the Antichrist already are and which happened an actual 1000 years before. Then the GWTJ will judge the sinners and death will be done away with by creating the New Heaven and the New Earth.
An example of what you are talking about is like in the book of Psalms I believe; a thousand is like saying God owns a cattle on a thousand hills. This wouldn't be wrong but there are more than a thousand hills that God owns. It shows great emphasis on God's power.
2 Peter 3:8 Peter says to be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. This was in answer to what was a long period of time of the promise of his coming and the beginning of creation when the world was in a flooded state Genesis 1:2. 2 Peter 3:9 says the Lord is not slack concerning his promise as some count slackness, but is long suffering to us-ward not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
This period of time is long to men but not to God because he lives in no time called eternity and this is why one day is a thousand years. This doesn't mean that God's time alone fits every context by itself. This is what happens when one has tunnel vision and think one scripture fits all contexts when it may not. This is improper hermeneutics.
So while there is much truth in the article about types and shadows it doesn't fit every context. There were other things that were not right but I'll stop and let you digest the real truth. Jerry kelso
