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thanks, glad we can agree to that much.
To clarify, I personally favor a Historicist interpretation, identifying the 1000 year long Byzantine empire as the Millennium, and Christian emperor Constantine as the physical manifestation of the prophesied Second Coming event.
Historicist or preterist?
I accept the Historicist interepretation.
from - Historicism (Christianity) - Wikipedia
The historicist view on the prophecy of seventy weeks, in Daniel 9, stretches from 457 BCE to 34 CE, and that the final "week" of the prophecy refers to the events of Jesus Christ's ministry. This was the view taught by Martin Luther and John Calvin This interpretation of Daniel
Accordingly, I think that the Charismatic gifts empowered the early Apostolic Church, only to subside in the 5th century AD after Christianity was legalized and victorious in the 4th century AD. Writers like Chrysostom and Augustine did note the cessation of gifts in their days, and the cessation corresponds to the onset of severe Religious disputes leading to Schisms, as between western Christendom and the OOC and Church of the East, co-occurring in the 5th century AD.
The symptom is a diminished amount of the "greater gifts" mentioned in 1 Cor 12 - just as there were no inspired prophetic writing in the NT after Malachi's time -- until John the baptizer. But that is very different from saying that "God said all prophetic gifts have forever ceased" because of that time.
So, I'm not claiming the present existence of extreme Charismatic sign gifts,
The "present extremes" are fakes in my POV. They would not have been "valid" even 2000 years ago.
Malachi was Old Testament not New Testament. John the Baptist was New Testament
err... ummm.. 'yes' -- I get that.
What is your point??
What exactly do you think the NT calls "scripture"?? for example in Luke 24:27?
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