Catholic Priest called "Alter Christus"

[Markie Boy]

So I seem to be questioning tons of things in Catholicism now.

Do the Orthodox also consider the priest an "Alter Christus" like Catholics do?

 

[Chesterton]

I found this blog, which also touches upon your other thread about simony:

Fr. John Whiteford's Commentary and Reflections: Stump the Priest: The Priesthood

 

[ArmyMatt]

So I seem to be questioning tons of things in Catholicism now.

Do the Orthodox also consider the priest an "Alter Christus" like Catholics do?

nope. check out the differences between us and Rome in what is said during any sacrament.

 

[Markie Boy]

nope. check out the differences between us and Rome in what is said during any sacrament.

Catholics seems to do a lot of "puffed up" language. When I question them on it, they seem to then want to deflate it or justify it by some odd perspective - it's just odd.

 

[~Anastasia~]

Catholics seems to do a lot of "puffed up" language. When I question them on it, they seem to then want to deflate it or justify it by some odd perspective - it's just odd.

Orthodoxy has some "puffed up" language too, depending on what you mean.

Some of it is the result of trying to translate very rich words in the Greek into English where there just aren't simple words (to be fair, I'm not familiar with the way Greeks of the day interacted with their language, so no idea if it was similarly "puffed up" in the original). But especially in the hymnology, at least among the Greeks, we use some pretty convoluted language in our translations presently. That's actually something I gather they'd like to streamline, but it probably isn't possible in English without losing meaning.

And some is the result of the way thoughts were expressed when they were written. I notice this sometimes in some of the prayers. But the greatest percentage of the prayers have no such problem at all. Just a small subset.

I'm not sure if that's what you mean. But asking why ought to be a fair question.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Catholics seems to do a lot of "puffed up" language. When I question them on it, they seem to then want to deflate it or justify it by some odd perspective - it's just odd.

I meant like in a baptism. I am pretty sure in Rome the priest says, "I baptize in the Name of..." whereas for us, "The servant of God is baptized..."

 

[Hamlet7768]

I meant like in a baptism. I am pretty sure in Rome the priest says, "I baptize in the Name of..." whereas for us, "The servant of God is baptized..."

Correct, in the Roman Rite it is "[Name], I baptize you in the Name of..."

The Rite of Absolution after Confession is similar, though invoking the Church as a whole: "Through the Ministry of the Church, may God grant you pardon and peace, and I absolve you of your sins in the Name of..."

Rome, for its part, doesn't seem to consider these things different enough to warrant separation, since the Greek Catholic Churches all use the formula Matt mentioned, so far as I know.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Correct, in the Roman Rite it is "[Name], I baptize you in the Name of..."

The Rite of Absolution after Confession is similar, though invoking the Church as a whole: "Through the Ministry of the Church, may God grant you pardon and peace, and I absolve you of your sins in the Name of..."

Rome, for its part, doesn't seem to consider these things different enough to warrant separation, since the Greek Catholic Churches all use the formula Matt mentioned, so far as I know.

but still not the same. for us it's, "May God forgive thee through me..." there is no, "I absolve you..." for us, absolution is from God alone and only through the priest.

 

[prodromos]

but still not the same. for us it's, "May God forgive thee through me..." there is no, "I absolve you..." for us, absolution is from God alone and only through the priest.

Yes, Orthodox theology pervades everything we do, just as Latin theology pervades everything Catholics do. As his eminence E.P. Bartholomew stated at Georgetown University, the manner of our being has become ontologically different.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Yes, Orthodox theology pervades everything we do, just as Latin theology pervades everything Catholics do. As his eminence E.P. Bartholomew stated at Georgetown University, the manner of our being has become ontologically different.

right, I believe Fr Damick used that quote in Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy.

 

[Jesus4Madrid]

Yes, Orthodox theology pervades everything we do, just as Latin theology pervades everything Catholics do. As his eminence E.P. Bartholomew stated at Georgetown University, the manner of our being has become ontologically different.

True. For me this is not a small, reconcilable difference. Rather, we Orthodox have a profoundly different relationship ontologically with both God and our priests. Orthodox priests seem more accessible with the language they use, like they are on our side advocating for us.