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What books, saints, authors, priests, etc would you recommend to address this Western thinking and to help in developing the Orthodox phronema?
Update: We are meeting soon with the priest at the OCA Parish and may not have to start our catechumen process over after all! I’m so thrilled because it was the very first parish we visited and I really wanted to be there from the beginning but at the time my husband felt it was too far to drive. Thank you all so, so much for the prayers.
that’s the problem. that IS the Western thinking. the Orthodox phronema doesn’t come from books but from the services and asceticism of the Church.
Yeah, look at me. My “teachers”, “saints” and books, aren’t Orthodox. But they keep me pointed to the Church when the people make me want to walk away. They say, listen to the Church, let the Church correct you, you are not smarter or wiser than the saints and fathers. It is in living the life of the Church and doing the hard things that are so easy to preach to others that you find anything really Orthodox.that’s the problem. that IS the Western thinking. the Orthodox phronema doesn’t come from books but from the services and asceticism of the Church.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying this. Should be repeated more often.
Yeah, look at me. My “teachers”, “saints” and books, aren’t Orthodox. But they keep me pointed to the Church when the people make me want to walk away. They say, listen to the Church, let the Church correct you, you are not smarter or wiser than the saints and fathers. It is in living the life of the Church and doing the hard things that are so easy to preach to others that you find anything really Orthodox.
that’s the problem. that IS the Western thinking. the Orthodox phronema doesn’t come from books but from the services and asceticism of the Church.
^this
and to reply to @Light of the East 's query, there is "Thinking Orthodox" which specifically addresses your question. The author recently did a talk on the subject:
I think she wrote the book specifically for Western converts, because western converts gravitate towards books, myself included.
^this
and to reply to @Light of the East 's query, there is "Thinking Orthodox" which specifically addresses your question. The author recently did a talk on the subject:
I think she wrote the book specifically for Western converts, because western converts gravitate towards books, myself included.
that’s the problem. that IS the Western thinking. the Orthodox phronema doesn’t come from books but from the services and asceticism of the Church.
Ah ha!!! Experiential, not intellectual. Another lesson in Orthodox phronema. Thank you, Father!
And make sure you let the experienced help you navigate those experiences (find a humble elder)yep, let the experiential guide the intellectual.
^this
and to reply to @Light of the East 's query, there is "Thinking Orthodox" which specifically addresses your question. The author recently did a talk on the subject:
I think she wrote the book specifically for Western converts, because western converts gravitate towards books, myself included.
And make sure you let the experienced help you navigate those experiences (find a humble elder)
The Greek parish priest is officially releasing us to continue our catechumen process at the OCA.
Thank you, that’s very much appreciated and I’m grateful!prayers for you on this leg of the journey!
Thank you, that’s very much appreciated and I’m grateful!
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