Carved Icons?

[Psalm 27]

We Orthodox are a little uncomfortable with statutes, I think, which is one reason I made this thread. There may be a gradation of what's going on when you go from two dimensional written (painted) icons, to carvings, to bas-relief, to statues.

That's true in the West, but as mentioned above, that's not how He is portrayed within Orthodoxy. But the accuracy of what He looked like is not of primary importance. What's very important is that God became man, so we should portray that truth. It separates Christianity from Judaism and Islam and every other religion. "Stuff got real" as the kids say. He was real like us, became matter like us, became human like us, because He loves us. It's a foundational truth of our faith, and that's why iconography of the Lord is important.

Oh yeah I know well how that goes. But technically there is a rule prohibiting speaking against people's beliefs within each of the different "Christian Communities" forums. But I don't mind debating a little here since you're not being obnoxious or anything.

Fair points.
He is the image of the invisible God. Amen.
I should have more respect for other people’s faith. I’ve been decieved by religion, so always pounce when I see it. stumbled across this thread, as I have other orthodox threads. Will try to excersise some self control and avoid in future. The Lord bless you and keep you...

 

[Psalm 27]

Why are y'all feeding the troll?

 

[Psalm 27]

An Orthodox icon of Christ:

Hair’s a bit ginger

 

[Psalm 27]

so if you don't know our stance, why throw Scripture at us instead of asking?

Do you pray to icons?

 

[ArmyMatt]

Do you pray to icons?

nope.

 

[Jesus4Madrid]

I heard the recent interview by Father Steven Damick with Jonathan Pageau. https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcas...lity_of_re_enchantment_jonathan_pageau_part_1
It sort of blew my mind. He is one of the most original thinkers I have heard in years. And totally Orthodox, even though he does say "Of course Santa Claus exists" (it is a complex argument).

 

[Chesterton]

I heard the recent interview by Father Steven Damick with Jonathan Pageau. The Inevitability of Re-enchantment - Jonathan Pageau (Part 1) - Orthodox Engagement | Ancient Faith Ministries
It sort of blew my mind. He is one of the most original thinkers I have heard in years. And totally Orthodox, even though he does say "Of course Santa Claus exists" (it is a complex argument).

Thanks for that. That was a good talk. I listened to several other talks of his. Very interesting stuff. Shades of Marshall McCluhan.

 

[ArmyMatt]

He is one of the most original thinkers I have heard in years.

indeed he is!

 

[Irminhart]

Hello all. I'm a bit troubled on what I should do. I'm buying hand-painted icons from Blessed Mart soon. I would like to also buy a very nice orthodox wall cross that is made of 100% beeswax. It's from a "Christian" shop on etsy, but I'm concerned if their work is ok. I've messaged them asking why this cross has the low bar in the wrong direction recently. Quite Skeptical.

 

[prodromos]

That's certainly odd. The cross itself is correct but the relief of Christ on the cross has the foot bar reversed.

 

[Irminhart]

Yes, which is why I'm sceptical of them.

 

[Irminhart]

Do you pray to icons?

Here are two videos of Fr. Spyridon Bailey, a reputable Russian Orthodox Priest speaking about Icons. Orthodox Christians do not worship Icons, wood and paint. They venerate the person/image it depicts.

 

[Irminhart]

Off topic question. When I created my account the other night, I chose Christian instead of Eastern Orthodoxy because I have yet to be baptized or chrismated into the church. Do you have to be baptized orthodox to have the EO denomination?

 

[ArmyMatt]

you should change to EO when you are received into the Church.

we have had issues in the past with catechumens speaking on behalf of the Church, being wrong, and causing problems.

 

[Irminhart]

you should change to EO when you are received into the Church.

we have had issues in the past with catechumens speaking on behalf of the Church, being wrong, and causing problems.

Understandable. My priest is planning on having me baptized by Pascha.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Understandable. My priest is planning on having me baptized by Pascha.

nice!

 

[Irminhart]

I've decided not to get that wall cross. I spoke to the owner of the shop, they said they can't make any alterations. Despite the fact that it's handmade. A reversed low bar is extremely sketchy.