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Cardinal Pell charged with child sex offences

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Zoii, Jun 28, 2017.

  1. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Well-Known Member

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    Everyone tries to do their job the best they see fit. Some tend to go the 'social justice' route, attempting to form common attitudes and advocating for cultural sways / norms.. I don't walk that way -I take on more of a personal kind of Catholicity.

    This thread is not about any previous allegations or convictions, cover ups, etc. It is about Cardinal Pell.
     
  2. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Well-Known Member

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    We're not talking about "these cases". We're talking about this case involving Cardinal Pell.

    (Even pope Francis, with his zero tolerance policies, has expressed doubt concerning this recent allegation)
     
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  3. jazzflower92

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    While there is doubt, there should be the strong dismissive attitude that comes from the Catholic League.
     
  4. Landon Caeli

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    The Catholic League is a lay organization comprised of Catholics. They raise some good points, and some questionable ones, IMO -but it's more prudent for me personally to disagree on their specific views than with the organization itself as a whole.

    ...Others may or may not appreciate the idea of Catholics defending their faith, which is also an acceptable position for Catholics or non-Catholics to hold if they wish.
     
  5. jazzflower92

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    It's run by Bill Donhoue who has a history of unpleasant actions. And he has a history of atrocious statements.
     
  6. Landon Caeli

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    Oh, I know. I'm not a fan of Bill -he is an Islamist apologist, and a bit of a coward when it comes to free speech.
     
  7. jazzflower92

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    They have burnt many bridges with the public that their opinion comes off as trying to protect an image, rather than get to the bottom of the problem.
     
  8. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    :doh:
     
  9. Zoii

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  10. Heavenhome

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    Yes his appeal has been denied, justice has prevailed.

    Of course now Pell wants to go to the high court of appeal.

    Whatever happens what he should be concerned about is the Highest Court: the one where he will stand before God giving account of all his deeds.
     
  11. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Well-Known Member

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    Ugh.
     
  12. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Well-Known Member

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    Nice hearing from you again though, Zoii.

    I don't come around much anymore, but I did see the email.

    ...I'll always remember our exchanges.
     
  13. creslaw

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    If Pell's verdict is overturned by the High Court will you still say "justice has prevailed"?

    We all need to be concerned about giving account of our deeds before God ... Jesus condemned the self righteous pharisees and commended the repentant sinner.
     
  14. creslaw

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    The most experienced member of the three judge panel (Justice weinberg) determined the charges were not proven. The two judges denying the appeal relied on the "ring of truth" argument, whereas Weinberg carefully & thoroughly examined the facts of the case in a dissenting report twice as long as that of the other two judges combined report.
    Weinberg was the only judge on the panel with extensive legal experience in criminal cases, the other judges having backgrounds in commercial law. Weinberg not only disagreed with the judges denying Pell's appeal, he voted for acquittal. This case still has a long way to go.
     
  15. Heavenhome

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  16. Zoii

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    :) and how are you
     
  17. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Well-Known Member

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    I'm good. I found a home where Catholics are accepted as equals. I'm doing well.
     
  18. Zoii

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    aw - Im glad u feel good.
     
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