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Canadian Rumors... AR15 and other Semi-Automatic firearms... Possibly Pistols and revolvers....

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by MarkRohfrietsch, May 31, 2019.

  1. MarkRohfrietsch

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  2. MarkRohfrietsch

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    You may not be aware, but we already have prohibitions in effect; there are presently two different classes; both of which were applied to firearms that had been previously registered.

    On class contains fully automatic weapons; and fully auto conversions to semi-auto such as the AK74. If you owned any of these prior to their prohibition, you may keep them, but you may not ever remove them from your residence and shoot them. You may sell them to anyone who has the correct class of license. Since at their prohibition, no new licences will ever be issued; the market has grown quite small, and these firearms have little market value unless you have them deactivated, and verified by the RCMP, they can be deregistered. These guns have way more market value than their functioning counterparts here in Canada.

    The second class contains firearms that were previously registered; these are all pistols with a barrel shorter than 4.1"; all .22 short and .32 caliber pistols with the exception .22 short and .32 ACP that are designed expressly for international competition. Pistols with short barrels, not .22 short or .32 can be modified by installing a non prohibited barrel (over 4.1") and when verified, will be moved from prohib status to restricted status. These may be sold to anyone with the correct class of license; but no new licenses will be issued.

    Both prohibited classes above can be bequeathed to a holder of the correct class of license, or to a member of your immediate family with a valid firearms licence, and the classification will be transferred to that person.

    A third class of prohibited devices that no one may possess (except for law enforcement and military) include silencers/supressors; pistol magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of the caliber that they were designed for; centerfire rifle magazines that hold more than 5 rounds (of exceptions).

    Restricted class are all other non prohibited hand guns, and specific modern sporting rifles built as semi-automatic only that include the AR15 and one model of CZ bull-pup (some military style bull-pups remain non restricted and no one knows why). These require a restricted class licence, and can only be fired at a certified range. The ARs and the CZ and a few others mentioned above would have been moved into the second class mentioned above; had they followed through on the rumor.

    Interesting fact... When I take my AR to the range I can not use a 10 round AR15 mag (prohibited); but I can use a LAR15 10 round mag because it was designed and designated for the AR15 based LAR pistol. In doing so, no laws are being broken.

    Likewise, I can take the 10 shot .40 Jericho mag, and shove 15 9mm Luger rounds in it, and put it in my CZ Clone; and they feed just fine, and I have broken no laws.

    Laws don't always make sense.

    So regarding the first two prohib classes; we call this "deferred confiscation", in that if there is no one to inherit and no one to buy these, upon your death, or if you fail to renew your licence, they must be surrendered. If you don't renew your license, it is flagged in the system, and they will show up at your door with a warrant to confiscate.

    The above lists are not complete, but you get the idea.
     
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  3. grasping the after wind

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    You don't need to tell me that . I live in New York State where laws rarely make sense for anyone outside of New York City.
     
  4. paul1149

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    Sounds like a nightmare.
    Indeed. And the more recent the law, the less it tends to make sense. At some point, Lord willing, would like to move, though I love the state's natural beauty.
     
  5. marineimaging

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    Is this Canadian laws?
     
  6. grasping the after wind

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    I would prefer that NYC become an independent nation of its own. Perhaps a socialist international city/state. There could be a government employee stationed in each residence to assure that no one drank more than 12 oz of carbonated beverages or engaged in any other non approved behavior.
     
  7. paul1149

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    I've thought about what to do with NYC. Becoming another state is not an option. That would give it two senators to vote its values. I think the only viable option is spiritual and civic revival.
     
  8. marineimaging

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    So far we don't have those issues in Texas. I carry in church, in the restaurants, in the stores. I was standing next to a man and woman in Walmurt the other day and both were open carrying. No issues, no problems. Both were legally holstered and strapped like they were supposed to be.
     
  9. MarkRohfrietsch

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    Yes, these are current laws here in Canada.
     
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    I have no issues with this either; however, were it legal to do so here, I would likely not carry; 60 winters on me, and never once have I been in a situation where I would have needed one. For me the inconvenience would outweigh the need. However, I would like to use my AR for groundhog hunting, and I can not. I would like to carry a pistol out and about in the countryside for some pinking, but I can not. I don't see any of this changing any time soon either.
     
  11. marineimaging

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    We have two national forests near Houston. Sam Houston is the nearest and it was taken over by the state to make it a Wildlife Management Area. The other, Davy Crockett, is still national forest and only one small section is state WMA. We can't hunt at night, use any form of light after dark, bait for feral hogs, plink or target practice in the WMA. We can plink and practice and night hunt under moon light in Davy Crockett. So, while we can carry openly in the forest when scouting for hunting areas or actually hunting, we still face restrictions that are cumbersome. Don't let anybody kid you. Hogs have more rights that people. In Texas I could walk out with a light at night, catch a thief, and shoot him and be cleared by a Grand Jury. If I did the same thing with a hog rooting around in the forest stealing my food I could shoot him and be cited or jailed for hunting at night with a light.
     
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  12. MarkRohfrietsch

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    Update...
    On June 21 Canadian Bill C71 received Royal Assent, and was signed into law by our Governor General. However, to come into force, it must be published in the "Canada Gazette" with the date that it is to come into force. This has yet to be done, however bills signed into law after C71 have been published.

    We believe that the Liberals will again make this an election issue, and will wait until after our fall election (should they get into power again) to enact it and start their ban campaign.

    The conservative party has promised to repeal C71, but in the event they get a minority government, it would be unlikely that they could.

    With the requirement to not just see, but verify the license of everyone who buys even non restricted guns, and the governments policy of no weekend workers at the Chief Firearms Officer's office, this will also effectively put a stop to weekend gun shows and local gun club swap meets.

    We are not out of the woods yet.
     
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    Will do, and prayers for more of your people to recall their history before anyone named Trudeau.

     
  14. MarkRohfrietsch

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    Thanks; The Maple Leaf Forever should, in my mind still be our national anthem!
     
  15. SJP51

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    Respectfully, I would suggest that the citizens of Venezueala being murdered by their own tyranical government, the Christians slaughtered in the Sudan, millions of Jews lost in the holocaust, millions killed by Stallin, milions killed by Pal Pot, millions killed by Mau, and countless others brutalized world wide might disagree. As might the 25 million (estimate I read) currently enslaved world wide.

    It is important to remember than BEFORE these attrocities occurred no one thought they WOULD occur. Once it starts, it's a tad too late run down to the local sporting goods store to arm yourself.
     
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