Canadian Christian school ordered to stop reading ‘offensive’ Bible passages

Covfefe

Lordy!
Jun 22, 2017
214
147
58
America
✟3,478.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Private
"A Canadian Christian school has been ordered by a public school board that it partners with to refrain from reading or studying “any scripture that could be considered offensive to particular individuals.” Included are passages from the New Testament that speak against fornication, adultery, idolatry, and witchcraft." https://www.lifesitenews.com/…/public-board-orders-christia…

It is just a matter of time before this begins here (in the U.S.), it is only the next logical step when looking at the PC culture we now live in. We have gone beyond just being politically correct... i.e. we have gone beyond trying to make sure we don't offend anyone who doesn't share our view and values. We have now made it a legal issue... to say something against one who exists outside our view and values (i.e. speaking out against homosexuality or witchcraft) is now against the law, legally it is known as "hate speech." Since the bible calls certain culturally accepted lifestyles "sin," then it is just a matter of time before those parts of the bible cannot be shared publicly and will become legally punishable when and if we do.
Wow...
 
Upvote 0

JackRT

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 17, 2015
15,722
16,445
80
small town Ontario, Canada
✟767,295.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
Here is the latest on this issue:

Alberta school board serves notice it will stop operating controversial Christian academy
Camrose board, school society battling over Bible verses proposed for student handbook

A dispute about Bible verses has led to a decision by the public school board in Camrose to stop operating a Christian K-12 school in nearby Kingman, Alta.
The public school board in Camrose, Alta., southeast of Edmonton says it will stop operating a Christian school next year after the school refused to drop Bible verses that could be considered offensive from its student handbook.

In a letter dated Thursday, the Battle River School Division said it will no longer operate Cornerstone Christian Academy School after June 30, 2018.

A lease agreement for the school building in Kingman, 27 kilometres north of Camrose, is also being terminated as of next June.

The school has operated as an alternative program under the Battle River division since 2009.

The decision to close the school next year is the latest move in an ongoing battle between the board and the school society over what can be taught to the K-12 Christian academy's 160 students.

Trustees voted in favour of the move at a special board meeting Thursday.

Several Bible verses were to be included in a handbook for students. One reference from Corinthians suggests that neither "fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate ... shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Battle River board trustees have said they believe the verses might contravene Alberta's human rights code.

In her Thursday letter to Cornerstone chair Deanna Margel, Battle River board chair Laurie Skori said the current arrangement "cannot continue on the current basis" until both sides can agree on the "appropriate roles and involvement at the school level.

"As a public school board we must ensure that any educational programming provided complies with board policy and procedure, provincial legislation including the Alberta Human Rights Act and the School Act," the letter said.

"Unless those concerns can be resolved, we are unable to maintain the current relationship."

John Carpay, a Calgary lawyer working with the Cornerstone Christian Academy Society, dismissed the concerns that the school's use of Bible verses might violate Alberta's human rights code.

"It's a stupid claim," Carpay said. "The school board's lawyer was asked to cite one section of the Alberta human rights law that prohibits a Christian school from reading, studying, teaching Bible verses and the lawyer was asked repeatedly and could not cite a single section."

Resolution could still come

But Skori leaves open the possibility that "a mutually acceptable resolution to our respective concerns can occur over the next weeks or months."

In a news release, Cornerstone Christian Academy said it wants to continue working with the school board to operate the academy.

"We are deeply saddened by the BRSD's decision to terminate our agreement," Margel said in a statement.

She said the board's decision "makes no sense if they truly desire to continue working together. It seems unwise, and completely unnecessary, to throw away years of productive co-operation in mere weeks because we've simply hit an unusual bump in the road. Things just don't add up."
 
Upvote 0

Jeepneytravel

Active Member
Feb 11, 2017
210
81
85
Asia Pacific
✟33,173.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Satan is certainly on the attack with this nonsensical legislation that the Canadian gvernment is passing....what is wrong with these people? Are they all perverted to this extent? Must be..and yes it will come to USA now.....seems the Christian churches are awfully quiet on this matter, guess they value their tax exemptions more than speaking and coming against this evil activity.
 
Upvote 0

KarateCowboy

Classical liberal
Site Supporter
Aug 6, 2004
13,390
2,109
✟140,932.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
A fairly large block of my fellow Christians have what could be called an entitlement mentality. For a great many centuries we Christians have had things their own way and have controlled society to such an extent that we have been able to impose our own agenda without challenge. However, when minority groups started demanding and recieving rights that they had previously been denied, rights that Christians held all along, these same Christians felt threatened and claimed that they were being persecuted. Rights and freedoms are not part of a zero-sum game. Expanding them does not thereby reduce them for some other group. For example, extending marriage rights to homosexuals has not reduced the right of heterosexuals in the slightest way. In reality Christians have lost no rights and are not threatened in any meaningful way. In Canada and the USA Christians are certainly not being persecuted.

If we examine the question of persecution historically we discover a somewhat different picture than is usually understood. The early Christians did endure persecution from the Roman authorities but it was not always and everywhere. It was in fact very patchy in both time and place. With Constantine that persecution was ended but over the next several centuries Christians launched a wide scale, vicious persecution against the pagans, particularly in but not limited to Western Europe. Once Christianity was firmly established and the pagans were thoroughly suppressed we turned to persecuting each other. It is only in the last century that Christians hav,e been experiencing persecution mostly in Asia and Africa.

Ah yes, "entitlement mentality". If you, as a Western Christian in the West expect to able to openly express and act upon traditional Western, Judeo-Christian values without being treated like a pariah then you have an "entitlement mentality".

There's this thing called "oikophobia" and what you're suggesting is emblematic of it. Suggesting that a culture's traditional values be treated as normal, benign, and the status quo is "entitlement mentality" is a great example of oikophobia.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Joshua_5
Upvote 0

JackRT

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 17, 2015
15,722
16,445
80
small town Ontario, Canada
✟767,295.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
Ah yes, "entitlement mentality". If you, as a Western Christian in the West expect to able to openly express and act upon traditional Western, Judeo-Christian values without being treated like a pariah then you have an "entitlement mentality".

If your traditional Western, Judeo-Christian values diminish, devalue, demean or oppress those who do not hold them, then you have an entitlement mentality.
 
Upvote 0

JackRT

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 17, 2015
15,722
16,445
80
small town Ontario, Canada
✟767,295.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
There's this thing called "oikophobia" and what you're suggesting is emblematic of it. Suggesting that a culture's traditional values be treated as normal, benign, and the status quo is "entitlement mentality" is a great example of oikophobia.

I had to look up oikophobia. Thanks for expanding my horizons a bit. I do not object to values that are normal or status quo, just those that are not benign. Oikophobia does not apply here.
 
Upvote 0

KarateCowboy

Classical liberal
Site Supporter
Aug 6, 2004
13,390
2,109
✟140,932.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
I had to look up oikophobia. Thanks for expanding my horizons a bit. I do not object to values that are normal or status quo, just those that are not benign. Oikophobia does not apply here.
The very point of these values is to edify and uplift people. There are centuries of philosophical backing to these. There is no oppression involved. The claim that Western culture or Judeo-Christian values are oppressive is inflammatory and extreme. I'd go so far as to say probably even bigoted.
Besides, it's a foreign, alien value that impugns our traditional values as oppressive and demeaning. As such, those inflammatory accusations are not benign. Oikophobia most definitely applies here. If you are going to bring in alien culture and philosophy and attack the native, traditional culture then the onus is on you to dispute the ~2000+ years of thought and experience behind it.
 
Last edited:
  • Agree
Reactions: Joshua_5
Upvote 0

JackRT

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 17, 2015
15,722
16,445
80
small town Ontario, Canada
✟767,295.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
Besides, it's a foreign, alien value that impugns our traditional values as oppressive and demeaning.

When traditional values ARE oppressive and demeaning they should be impugned whether its a foreign alien value or simply a domestic new understanding of a traditional value.

An excellent example is the "doctrine of discovery". 500 years ago it was very much a respected traditional value in the Christian world. Now, a great many (most?) Christians regard it as evil.
 
Upvote 0

KarateCowboy

Classical liberal
Site Supporter
Aug 6, 2004
13,390
2,109
✟140,932.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
When traditional values ARE oppressive and demeaning they should be impugned whether its a foreign alien value or simply a domestic new understanding of a traditional value.

An excellent example is the "doctrine of discovery". 500 years ago it was very much a respected traditional value in the Christian world. Now, a great many (most?) Christians regard it as evil.

Obviously Western and Judeo-Christian values are not considered oppressive and demeaning by those who hold them, or else they wouldn't hold them. So, oppressive and demeaning by what standard? Non-western or oikophobic ones, basically.
 
Upvote 0

JackRT

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 17, 2015
15,722
16,445
80
small town Ontario, Canada
✟767,295.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
Obviously Western and Judeo-Christian values are not considered oppressive and demeaning by those who hold them, or else they wouldn't hold them. So, oppressive and demeaning by what standard? Non-western or oikophobic ones, basically.

Perhaps the bottom line question is whether or not traditional Western and Judeo-Christian values are given a free ride simply because they are traditional Western and Judeo-Christian values.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

KarateCowboy

Classical liberal
Site Supporter
Aug 6, 2004
13,390
2,109
✟140,932.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
Perhaps the bottom line question is whether or not traditional Western and Judeo-Christian values are given a free ride simply because they are traditional Western and Judeo-Christian values.
The suggestion that Western and Judeo-Christian values are given a pass is absurd. Oikophobia is the spirit of the times. We see it Western universities and in the Western left in general. You see the Paradox of the Oikophobe constantly at play when Westerners criticize the draconian, theocratic rules of Islam. We see it at play when foreign interlopers are given in-state tuition rates at American universities, but other Americans are not. Every time someone talks about "whiteness" in a negative way, they are attacking Western civilization and dog-whistling racism.
 
Upvote 0

JackRT

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 17, 2015
15,722
16,445
80
small town Ontario, Canada
✟767,295.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
The suggestion that Western and Judeo-Christian values are given a pass is absurd. Oikophobia is the spirit of the times. We see it Western universities and in the Western left in general. You see the Paradox of the Oikophobe constantly at play when Westerners criticize the draconian, theocratic rules of Islam. We see it at play when foreign interlopers are given in-state tuition rates at American universities, but other Americans are not. Every time someone talks about "whiteness" in a negative way, they are attacking Western civilization and dog-whistling racism.

Is Western civilization perfect and immune from critique? I do not think so. Call it whatever you want.

BTW, just what in heck is "dog-whistling racism"?
 
Upvote 0

KarateCowboy

Classical liberal
Site Supporter
Aug 6, 2004
13,390
2,109
✟140,932.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
Is Western civilization perfect and immune from critique? I do not think so. Call it whatever you want.

BTW, just what in heck is "dog-whistling racism"?

Like I said, it's open season on Western civ, to the point of being oikophobic.

Here: LMGTFY
 
  • Like
Reactions: Joshua_5
Upvote 0