Can we obtain perfection?

[BNR32FAN]

Thank you.

Sometimes it’s hard to just find a nice polite discussion about a topic. Just to discuss different perspectives and weigh evidence without people getting angry and frustrated resulting in insults and condescending remarks. It shows a lack of maturity.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

He has proved Himself over and over.

I'm not sure what you are referring to. Did not even the wicked wake up alive today? ...

Matthew 5:45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven ...
For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. English Standard Version so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. Berean Study Bible
Matthew 5:45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
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over and over .....

 

[watchman 2]

I thought you could possibly be a intellectual challenge as well as a biblical 'word' challenge.......guess I was wrong.
And I feel sorry for the guy that you responded to in this post. He is going to experience a NUT if he tries to be logical with you.

And there's the excuse not to answer the question.

Try to take me out of your thought process and learn something.

 

[watchman 2]

I don't know of any scripture which mentions "Faith being fulfilled."

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Acts of the apostles 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.​

How about the Greek dictionary?

Vines : pisteuo or saving Faith is , " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. "

Strongs : "pisteuo means NOT just to believe."

 

[Gr8Grace]

And there's the excuse not to answer the question.

Try to take me out of your thought process and learn something.

So whats your excuse for NEVER addressing my point?

How does the word 'believe' change the object of our faith to anything other than the Lord Jesus Christ?

You can't answer......hence all the distraction.

 

[watchman 2]

So whats your excuse for NEVER addressing my point?

How does the word 'believe' change the object of our faith to anything other than the Lord Jesus Christ?

You can't answer......hence all the distraction.

Strongs : pisteuo or saving Faith " means NOT just to believe."

No such thing as believing !

 

[Gr8Grace]

How about the Greek dictionary?

Vines : pisteuo or saving Faith is , " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. "

Strongs : "pisteuo means NOT just to believe."

Why not give us a link for this? Or a page we can see you are getting your information?

Because......Here is my definition and it from VINES. Define BELIEVE | Definition for word BELIEVE Vine's Greek New Testment Dictionary BELIEVE

A1. Belief, Believe, Believers [Verb] pisteuo "to believe," also "to be persuaded of," and hence, "to place confidence in, to trust," signifies, in this sense of the word, reliance upon, not mere credence. It is most frequent in the writings of the Apostle John, especially the Gospel. He does not use the noun (see below). For the Lord's first use of the verb, see John 1:50. Of the writers of the Gospels, Matthew uses the verb ten times, Mark ten, Luke nine, John ninety-nine. In Acts 5:14 the present participle of the verb is translated "believers." See COMMIT, INTRUST, TRUST.



See also : pisteuo

Pay special attention to John 1:50. No action or works involved.......Just a non-meritorious perception and confident trust in the authority and veracity of God.

 

[Gr8Grace]

Strongs : pisteuo or saving Faith " means NOT just to believe."

No such thing as believing !

So you don't believe anything?

 

[watchman 2]

Why not give us a link for this? Or a page we can see you are getting your information?

Because......Here is my definition and it from VINES. Define BELIEVE | Definition for word BELIEVE Vine's Greek New Testment Dictionary BELIEVE

A1. Belief, Believe, Believers [Verb] pisteuo "to believe," also "to be persuaded of," and hence, "to place confidence in, to trust," signifies, in this sense of the word, reliance upon, not mere credence. It is most frequent in the writings of the Apostle John, especially the Gospel. He does not use the noun (see below). For the Lord's first use of the verb, see John 1:50. Of the writers of the Gospels, Matthew uses the verb ten times, Mark ten, Luke nine, John ninety-nine. In Acts 5:14 the present participle of the verb is translated "believers." See COMMIT, INTRUST, TRUST.



See also : pisteuo

Pay special attention to John 1:50. No action or works involved.......Just a non-meritorious perception and confident trust in the authority and veracity of God.

Vines : " pisteuo means a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. Producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation of truth."

Vines : "all this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural excerise, which consists of an opinion held in good faith without necessary reference to it's proof .the object of Abrahams Faith was not God's promise ( that was the occasion of it's excerise, ) his Faith rested in God Himself."

Take Abrahams word on it not mine.

 

[Gr8Grace]

Vines : " pisteuo means a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. Producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation of truth."

Vines : "all this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural excerise, which consists of an opinion held in good faith without necessary reference to it's proof .the object of Abrahams Faith was not God's promise ( that was the occasion of it's excerise, ) his Faith rested in God Himself."

Take Abrahams word on it not mine.

Where is the link or page for this....................I can't find it in the vines I have.

 

[Gr8Grace]

Watchoutforman2~~~And still not forgetting that you have not addressed my initial point:

How does the word 'believing' change the object of faith to anything other than the Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Der Alte]

How about the Greek dictionary?
Vines : pisteuo or saving Faith is , " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. "
Strongs : "pisteuo means NOT just to believe."

I started learning to speak Greek the year Elvis and I were stationed in Germany. Not at the same base. And I studied both Biblical languages about 2 decades after that. Strong's has been found to have about 15,000 errors or omissions. I prefer BDAG which is the gold standard for Greek. The complete entry is more than 2 pages but I have listed the essential information. Unlike Strong's and Vine's, BDAG cites historical information to support their interpretation. FYI BDAG refers to Bauer, Danker, Arndt and Gingrich the four scholars who produced the BDAG.

πιστεύω (Trag.+) impf. ἐπίστευον; 1 aor. ἐπίστευσα; pf. πεπίστευκα; plpf. πεπιστεύκειν Ac 14:23 1J only once, 5:4. Our lit. uses it quite predominantly in a transcendent sense, or at least w. transcendent coloring).
① to consider someth. to be true and therefore worthy of one’s trust, believe
ⓐ believe (in) someth., be convinced of someth.,
1 Cor 13:7. 1J 4:16. πιστεύεις τοῦτο; J 11:26b. Cp. Ac 13:41 (Hab 1:5). 2 Th 1:10b
Lk 1:45 (ὅτι here may=for: s. ὅτι 4b).—Mk 11:23; cp. vs. 24; J 8:24 (ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι as Is 43:10); 11:27, 42; 13:19; 14:10; 16:27, 30; 17:8, 21; 20:31a; Ac 9:26; Ro 6:8; 10:9; 1 Th 4:14; Hb 11:6; Js 2:19a; 1J 5:1, 5; Ac 8:37b.— Ac 15:11 Lk 1:20 (J 2:22. Cp. 4:50; 5:47ab. Ac 24:14 2 Th 2:11, 12. J 12:38; Ro 10:16; J 10:38b
Ro 4:18, 1J 5:10c. Mk 1:15 Lk 24:25; Ro 9:33 (Is 28:16).
ⓑ w. the pers. to whom one gives credence or whom one believes, Mk 16:14. Cp. Mt 21:25, 32abc; Mk 11:31; 16:13; Lk 20:5; J 5:46a; Ac 8:12; 26:27a (1J 4:1;: Mt 27:42 v.l.; J 5:38, 46b; 6:30; 8:45, 46; 10:37, 38a. God: J 5:24; Ro 4:3 (Gen 15:6), 17 Gal 3:6; Js 2:23; 1J 5:10b
ⓒ w. pers. and thing added π. τινί τι believe someone with regard to someth. J 14:11a. Cp. 4:21; Ac 27:25.
ⓓMt 24:23; cp. vs. 26; Mk 13:21; Lk 22:67; J 3:12ab; 10:25f; 12:47 v.l.; 14:29; 16:31; 19:35; 20:8, 25; cp. GJs 19:3. J 20:29ab Ac 4:4; 26:27b; 1 Cor 11:18 15:11; Js 2:19b Jd 5. Ro 10:10.
② to entrust oneself to an entity in complete confidence, believe (in), trust,
ⓐ given
Ac 16:34; 13:12 D; Tit 3:8;: Mt 27:42 v.l); J 6:30 (σοί=vs. 29 εἰς ὃν ἀπέστειλεν ἐκεῖνος); J 8:31 (αὐτῷ=vs. 30 5:14; 18:8a (both τῷ κυρίῳ); Ro 10:14b (οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν = τούτῳ [about equivalent to εἰς τοῦτον; cp. vs. 14a] οὗ οὐκ ἤκ.); 2 Ti 1:12; 1 Ti 3:16.— 1J 3:23.
β. w. εἰς (cp. Hippol., Elench. 6, 19, 7 W. οἱ εἰς τὸν Σίμωνα καὶ τὴν Ἑλένην πεπιστευκότες; Just., D. 35, 8 al.) God (BGU 874, 11 π. εἰς τὸν θεόν): J 12:44b; 14:1a (cp. ET 21, 1910, 53–57; 68–70; 138f); 1 Pt 1:21 v.l.=Pol 2:1.—Christ: Mt 18:6; Mk 9:42; J 2:11; 3:15 v.l., 16, 18a, 36; 4:39; 6:29, 35, 40, 47 v.l.; 7:5, 31, 38f, 48; 8:30; 9:35f; 10:42; 11:25, 26a, 45, 48; 12:11, 36 (εἰς τὸ φῶς), 37, 42, 44a, 46; 14:1b, 12; 16:9; 17:20; Ac 10:43; 14:23; 18:8 D; 19:4; Ro 10:14a; Gal 2:16; Phil 1:29; 1 Pt 1:8; 1J 5:10a; AcPlCor 2:31; Hs 8, 3, 2.—εἰς τὸ ὄνομα Ἰησοῦ (or αὐτοῦ, etc.) J 1:12; 2:23; 3:18c; 1J 5:13 Ac 11:17 D. Of Christ: Mt 27:42 v.l.; J 3:15 v.l.; Ro 9:33; 10:11; 1 Pt 2:6 (the last three Is 28:16); 1 Ti 1:16.
: Ac 16:34 D; Ro 4:5, 24; PtK 3 p. 15, 12. Of Christ: Mt 27:42; J 3:15 v.l.; Ac 9:42; 11:17; 16:31; 22:19. J 3:15, as in 3:16); in Eph 1:13 Mk 1:15
ⓑ not expressed at all (the abs. πιστεύειν in a transcendent sense: Mk 15:32; 16:16f; Lk 8:12f; J 1:7, 50; 3:15, 18b; 4:41f, 48, 53; 5:44; 6:36, 47, 64ab, perh. 69 (MEnslin, The Perf. Tense in the Fourth Gosp.: JBL 55, ’36, 121–31, esp. 128); 9:38; 10:26; 11:15, 40; 12:39; 20:31b; Ac 4:4; 8:13, 37a; 11:21; 13:12, 39, 48; 14:1; 15:5, 7; 17:12, 34; 18:8b, 27; 19:2; 21:25; Ro 1:16; 3:22; 4:11; 10:4; 13:11; 15:13; 1 Cor 1:21; 3:5; 15:2; Gal 3:22; Eph 1:13, 19; 1 Th 2:10, 13; Hb 4:3; 1 Pt 2:7; Ac 2:44; Ro 3:22; 1 Cor 14:22ab 1 Th 1:7;, Ac 2:44 v.l.; 4:32; 2 Th 1:10a; Ac 19:18; 21:20
ⓒ A special kind of this faith is the confidence that God or Christ is in a position to help suppliants out of their distress Mt 8:13 21:22. Cp. Mk 5:36; 9:23f; Lk 8:50; 2 Cor 4:13a (Ps Mt 9:28.—Mk 11:23.
③ entrust τινί τι someth. to someone (Lk 16:11. J 2:24 (Ro 3:2. Gal 2:7 1 Th 2:4; 1 Ti 1:11.—Tit 1:3. 1 Cor 9:17;④ be confident about, Ro 14:2
⑤ think/consider (possible), in Ro 14:2 perh. holds everything possible; cp. J 9:18 Ac 9:26. S. 4 above.—
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., pp. 816–818). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.​

 

[Der Alte]

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<W2>Vines : " pisteuo means a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. Producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation of truth."
Vines : "all this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural excerise, which consists of an opinion held in good faith without necessary reference to it's proof .the object of Abrahams Faith was not God's promise ( that was the occasion of it's excerise, ) his Faith rested in God Himself."
Take Abrahams word on it not mine.<W2>

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What you quoted is not "Abraham's word" but what Vine's thinks, supposes, surmises Abraham's faith rested on. Everything you quoted is Vine's unsupported opinion which cites no scriptural or historical evidence. The Hebrew word for faith is not the same as the Greek word for faith.

 

[BNR32FAN]

<W2>Vines : " pisteuo means a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. Producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation of truth."
Vines : "all this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural excerise, which consists of an opinion held in good faith without necessary reference to it's proof .the object of Abrahams Faith was not God's promise ( that was the occasion of it's excerise, ) his Faith rested in God Himself."
Take Abrahams word on it not mine.<W2>
What you quoted is not "Abraham's word" but what Vine's thinks, supposes, surmises Abraham's faith rested on. Everything you quoted is Vine's unsupported opinion which cites no scriptural or historical evidence. The Hebrew word for faith is not the same as the Greek word for faith.

I have to go with watchman on this one my friend. Our salvation is also contingent on obedience. Not that we are saved by works but that abiding in Christ will produce works and a lack of works represents a lack of faith.

 

[bbbbbbb]

<W2>Vines : " pisteuo means a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. Producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation of truth."
Vines : "all this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural excerise, which consists of an opinion held in good faith without necessary reference to it's proof .the object of Abrahams Faith was not God's promise ( that was the occasion of it's excerise, ) his Faith rested in God Himself."
Take Abrahams word on it not mine.<W2>
What you quoted is not "Abraham's word" but what Vine's thinks, supposes, surmises Abraham's faith rested on. Everything you quoted is Vine's unsupported opinion which cites no scriptural or historical evidence. The Hebrew word for faith is not the same as the Greek word for faith.

Nor, would I also add, are the English and Chinese words for faith identical to the Hebrew and Greek words for faith. Thus, it seems that no language really shares the same word for faith.

 

[Dkh587]

Matt 5:43-48 should not be understood as Jesus saying we are to be absolutely perfect in every respect. Read the context.

Matthew 5:43-48
(43) "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.'
(44) But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
(45) that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
(46) If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
(47) And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
(48) Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.​

God loves those who hate Him, God causes the sun to shine and rain to fall even on the unrighteous therefore you do likewise.

Wouldn’t it be acceptable to translate the word as “complete” rather than “perfect” at times?

The Weymouth New Testament translates it like this:

You however are to be complete in goodness, as your Heavenly Father is complete.

 

[watchman 2]

<W2>Vines : " pisteuo means a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. Producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation of truth."
Vines : "all this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural excerise, which consists of an opinion held in good faith without necessary reference to it's proof .the object of Abrahams Faith was not God's promise ( that was the occasion of it's excerise, ) his Faith rested in God Himself."
Take Abrahams word on it not mine.<W2>
What you quoted is not "Abraham's word" but what Vine's thinks, supposes, surmises Abraham's faith rested on. Everything you quoted is Vine's unsupported opinion which cites no scriptural or historical evidence. The Hebrew word for faith is not the same as the Greek word for faith.

The point being, Abrahams action ( his pisteuo ) spoke louder than words.


Of course there is only one way to know which Greek dictionary is the closest to the truth, and that's comparing them to having the real born again experience.

With that said, I can't use my " personal " born again experience to try and persuade you. So I use facts that are not debatable.

That leaves two options.
One attack the messenger with name-calling, misrepresentation, and trickery. Or two attack the scholars and their understandings , such as Strongs,Vines,Thayers ,Brown , Briggs.

I appreciate you taking the low road and attacking the Greek scholars instead of me. But I hope you at least think about the evidence I've presented.

 

[Gr8Grace]

I started learning to speak Greek the year Elvis and I were stationed in Germany. Not at the same base. And I studied both Biblical languages about 2 decades after that. Strong's has been found to have about 15,000 errors or omissions. I prefer BDAG which is the gold standard for Greek. The complete entry is more than 2 pages but I have listed the essential information. Unlike Strong's and Vine's, BDAG cites historical information to support their interpretation. FYI BDAG refers to Bauer, Danker, Arndt and Gingrich the four scholars who produced the BDAG.

πιστεύω (Trag.+) impf. ἐπίστευον; 1 aor. ἐπίστευσα; pf. πεπίστευκα; plpf. πεπιστεύκειν Ac 14:23 1J only once, 5:4. Our lit. uses it quite predominantly in a transcendent sense, or at least w. transcendent coloring).
① to consider someth. to be true and therefore worthy of one’s trust, believe
ⓐ believe (in) someth., be convinced of someth.,
1 Cor 13:7. 1J 4:16. πιστεύεις τοῦτο; J 11:26b. Cp. Ac 13:41 (Hab 1:5). 2 Th 1:10b
Lk 1:45 (ὅτι here may=for: s. ὅτι 4b).—Mk 11:23; cp. vs. 24; J 8:24 (ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι as Is 43:10); 11:27, 42; 13:19; 14:10; 16:27, 30; 17:8, 21; 20:31a; Ac 9:26; Ro 6:8; 10:9; 1 Th 4:14; Hb 11:6; Js 2:19a; 1J 5:1, 5; Ac 8:37b.— Ac 15:11 Lk 1:20 (J 2:22. Cp. 4:50; 5:47ab. Ac 24:14 2 Th 2:11, 12. J 12:38; Ro 10:16; J 10:38b
Ro 4:18, 1J 5:10c. Mk 1:15 Lk 24:25; Ro 9:33 (Is 28:16).
ⓑ w. the pers. to whom one gives credence or whom one believes, Mk 16:14. Cp. Mt 21:25, 32abc; Mk 11:31; 16:13; Lk 20:5; J 5:46a; Ac 8:12; 26:27a (1J 4:1;: Mt 27:42 v.l.; J 5:38, 46b; 6:30; 8:45, 46; 10:37, 38a. God: J 5:24; Ro 4:3 (Gen 15:6), 17 Gal 3:6; Js 2:23; 1J 5:10b
ⓒ w. pers. and thing added π. τινί τι believe someone with regard to someth. J 14:11a. Cp. 4:21; Ac 27:25.
ⓓMt 24:23; cp. vs. 26; Mk 13:21; Lk 22:67; J 3:12ab; 10:25f; 12:47 v.l.; 14:29; 16:31; 19:35; 20:8, 25; cp. GJs 19:3. J 20:29ab Ac 4:4; 26:27b; 1 Cor 11:18 15:11; Js 2:19b Jd 5. Ro 10:10.
② to entrust oneself to an entity in complete confidence, believe (in), trust,
ⓐ given
Ac 16:34; 13:12 D; Tit 3:8;: Mt 27:42 v.l); J 6:30 (σοί=vs. 29 εἰς ὃν ἀπέστειλεν ἐκεῖνος); J 8:31 (αὐτῷ=vs. 30 5:14; 18:8a (both τῷ κυρίῳ); Ro 10:14b (οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν = τούτῳ [about equivalent to εἰς τοῦτον; cp. vs. 14a] οὗ οὐκ ἤκ.); 2 Ti 1:12; 1 Ti 3:16.— 1J 3:23.
β. w. εἰς (cp. Hippol., Elench. 6, 19, 7 W. οἱ εἰς τὸν Σίμωνα καὶ τὴν Ἑλένην πεπιστευκότες; Just., D. 35, 8 al.) God (BGU 874, 11 π. εἰς τὸν θεόν): J 12:44b; 14:1a (cp. ET 21, 1910, 53–57; 68–70; 138f); 1 Pt 1:21 v.l.=Pol 2:1.—Christ: Mt 18:6; Mk 9:42; J 2:11; 3:15 v.l., 16, 18a, 36; 4:39; 6:29, 35, 40, 47 v.l.; 7:5, 31, 38f, 48; 8:30; 9:35f; 10:42; 11:25, 26a, 45, 48; 12:11, 36 (εἰς τὸ φῶς), 37, 42, 44a, 46; 14:1b, 12; 16:9; 17:20; Ac 10:43; 14:23; 18:8 D; 19:4; Ro 10:14a; Gal 2:16; Phil 1:29; 1 Pt 1:8; 1J 5:10a; AcPlCor 2:31; Hs 8, 3, 2.—εἰς τὸ ὄνομα Ἰησοῦ (or αὐτοῦ, etc.) J 1:12; 2:23; 3:18c; 1J 5:13 Ac 11:17 D. Of Christ: Mt 27:42 v.l.; J 3:15 v.l.; Ro 9:33; 10:11; 1 Pt 2:6 (the last three Is 28:16); 1 Ti 1:16.
: Ac 16:34 D; Ro 4:5, 24; PtK 3 p. 15, 12. Of Christ: Mt 27:42; J 3:15 v.l.; Ac 9:42; 11:17; 16:31; 22:19. J 3:15, as in 3:16); in Eph 1:13 Mk 1:15
ⓑ not expressed at all (the abs. πιστεύειν in a transcendent sense: Mk 15:32; 16:16f; Lk 8:12f; J 1:7, 50; 3:15, 18b; 4:41f, 48, 53; 5:44; 6:36, 47, 64ab, perh. 69 (MEnslin, The Perf. Tense in the Fourth Gosp.: JBL 55, ’36, 121–31, esp. 128); 9:38; 10:26; 11:15, 40; 12:39; 20:31b; Ac 4:4; 8:13, 37a; 11:21; 13:12, 39, 48; 14:1; 15:5, 7; 17:12, 34; 18:8b, 27; 19:2; 21:25; Ro 1:16; 3:22; 4:11; 10:4; 13:11; 15:13; 1 Cor 1:21; 3:5; 15:2; Gal 3:22; Eph 1:13, 19; 1 Th 2:10, 13; Hb 4:3; 1 Pt 2:7; Ac 2:44; Ro 3:22; 1 Cor 14:22ab 1 Th 1:7;, Ac 2:44 v.l.; 4:32; 2 Th 1:10a; Ac 19:18; 21:20
ⓒ A special kind of this faith is the confidence that God or Christ is in a position to help suppliants out of their distress Mt 8:13 21:22. Cp. Mk 5:36; 9:23f; Lk 8:50; 2 Cor 4:13a (Ps Mt 9:28.—Mk 11:23.
③ entrust τινί τι someth. to someone (Lk 16:11. J 2:24 (Ro 3:2. Gal 2:7 1 Th 2:4; 1 Ti 1:11.—Tit 1:3. 1 Cor 9:17;④ be confident about, Ro 14:2
⑤ think/consider (possible), in Ro 14:2 perh. holds everything possible; cp. J 9:18 Ac 9:26. S. 4 above.—
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., pp. 816–818). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.​

Is this downloadable from any particular site?

 

[watchman 2]

I started learning to speak Greek the year Elvis and I were stationed in Germany. Not at the same base. And I studied both Biblical languages about 2 decades after that. Strong's has been found to have about 15,000 errors or omissions. I prefer BDAG which is the gold standard for Greek. The complete entry is more than 2 pages but I have listed the essential information. Unlike Strong's and Vine's, BDAG cites historical information to support their interpretation. FYI BDAG refers to Bauer, Danker, Arndt and Gingrich the four scholars who produced the BDAG.

πιστεύω (Trag.+) impf. ἐπίστευον; 1 aor. ἐπίστευσα; pf. πεπίστευκα; plpf. πεπιστεύκειν Ac 14:23 1J only once, 5:4. Our lit. uses it quite predominantly in a transcendent sense, or at least w. transcendent coloring).
① to consider someth. to be true and therefore worthy of one’s trust, believe
ⓐ believe (in) someth., be convinced of someth.,
1 Cor 13:7. 1J 4:16. πιστεύεις τοῦτο; J 11:26b. Cp. Ac 13:41 (Hab 1:5). 2 Th 1:10b
Lk 1:45 (ὅτι here may=for: s. ὅτι 4b).—Mk 11:23; cp. vs. 24; J 8:24 (ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι as Is 43:10); 11:27, 42; 13:19; 14:10; 16:27, 30; 17:8, 21; 20:31a; Ac 9:26; Ro 6:8; 10:9; 1 Th 4:14; Hb 11:6; Js 2:19a; 1J 5:1, 5; Ac 8:37b.— Ac 15:11 Lk 1:20 (J 2:22. Cp. 4:50; 5:47ab. Ac 24:14 2 Th 2:11, 12. J 12:38; Ro 10:16; J 10:38b
Ro 4:18, 1J 5:10c. Mk 1:15 Lk 24:25; Ro 9:33 (Is 28:16).
ⓑ w. the pers. to whom one gives credence or whom one believes, Mk 16:14. Cp. Mt 21:25, 32abc; Mk 11:31; 16:13; Lk 20:5; J 5:46a; Ac 8:12; 26:27a (1J 4:1;: Mt 27:42 v.l.; J 5:38, 46b; 6:30; 8:45, 46; 10:37, 38a. God: J 5:24; Ro 4:3 (Gen 15:6), 17 Gal 3:6; Js 2:23; 1J 5:10b
ⓒ w. pers. and thing added π. τινί τι believe someone with regard to someth. J 14:11a. Cp. 4:21; Ac 27:25.
ⓓMt 24:23; cp. vs. 26; Mk 13:21; Lk 22:67; J 3:12ab; 10:25f; 12:47 v.l.; 14:29; 16:31; 19:35; 20:8, 25; cp. GJs 19:3. J 20:29ab Ac 4:4; 26:27b; 1 Cor 11:18 15:11; Js 2:19b Jd 5. Ro 10:10.
② to entrust oneself to an entity in complete confidence, believe (in), trust,
ⓐ given
Ac 16:34; 13:12 D; Tit 3:8;: Mt 27:42 v.l); J 6:30 (σοί=vs. 29 εἰς ὃν ἀπέστειλεν ἐκεῖνος); J 8:31 (αὐτῷ=vs. 30 5:14; 18:8a (both τῷ κυρίῳ); Ro 10:14b (οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν = τούτῳ [about equivalent to εἰς τοῦτον; cp. vs. 14a] οὗ οὐκ ἤκ.); 2 Ti 1:12; 1 Ti 3:16.— 1J 3:23.
β. w. εἰς (cp. Hippol., Elench. 6, 19, 7 W. οἱ εἰς τὸν Σίμωνα καὶ τὴν Ἑλένην πεπιστευκότες; Just., D. 35, 8 al.) God (BGU 874, 11 π. εἰς τὸν θεόν): J 12:44b; 14:1a (cp. ET 21, 1910, 53–57; 68–70; 138f); 1 Pt 1:21 v.l.=Pol 2:1.—Christ: Mt 18:6; Mk 9:42; J 2:11; 3:15 v.l., 16, 18a, 36; 4:39; 6:29, 35, 40, 47 v.l.; 7:5, 31, 38f, 48; 8:30; 9:35f; 10:42; 11:25, 26a, 45, 48; 12:11, 36 (εἰς τὸ φῶς), 37, 42, 44a, 46; 14:1b, 12; 16:9; 17:20; Ac 10:43; 14:23; 18:8 D; 19:4; Ro 10:14a; Gal 2:16; Phil 1:29; 1 Pt 1:8; 1J 5:10a; AcPlCor 2:31; Hs 8, 3, 2.—εἰς τὸ ὄνομα Ἰησοῦ (or αὐτοῦ, etc.) J 1:12; 2:23; 3:18c; 1J 5:13 Ac 11:17 D. Of Christ: Mt 27:42 v.l.; J 3:15 v.l.; Ro 9:33; 10:11; 1 Pt 2:6 (the last three Is 28:16); 1 Ti 1:16.
: Ac 16:34 D; Ro 4:5, 24; PtK 3 p. 15, 12. Of Christ: Mt 27:42; J 3:15 v.l.; Ac 9:42; 11:17; 16:31; 22:19. J 3:15, as in 3:16); in Eph 1:13 Mk 1:15
ⓑ not expressed at all (the abs. πιστεύειν in a transcendent sense: Mk 15:32; 16:16f; Lk 8:12f; J 1:7, 50; 3:15, 18b; 4:41f, 48, 53; 5:44; 6:36, 47, 64ab, perh. 69 (MEnslin, The Perf. Tense in the Fourth Gosp.: JBL 55, ’36, 121–31, esp. 128); 9:38; 10:26; 11:15, 40; 12:39; 20:31b; Ac 4:4; 8:13, 37a; 11:21; 13:12, 39, 48; 14:1; 15:5, 7; 17:12, 34; 18:8b, 27; 19:2; 21:25; Ro 1:16; 3:22; 4:11; 10:4; 13:11; 15:13; 1 Cor 1:21; 3:5; 15:2; Gal 3:22; Eph 1:13, 19; 1 Th 2:10, 13; Hb 4:3; 1 Pt 2:7; Ac 2:44; Ro 3:22; 1 Cor 14:22ab 1 Th 1:7;, Ac 2:44 v.l.; 4:32; 2 Th 1:10a; Ac 19:18; 21:20
ⓒ A special kind of this faith is the confidence that God or Christ is in a position to help suppliants out of their distress Mt 8:13 21:22. Cp. Mk 5:36; 9:23f; Lk 8:50; 2 Cor 4:13a (Ps Mt 9:28.—Mk 11:23.
③ entrust τινί τι someth. to someone (Lk 16:11. J 2:24 (Ro 3:2. Gal 2:7 1 Th 2:4; 1 Ti 1:11.—Tit 1:3. 1 Cor 9:17;④ be confident about, Ro 14:2
⑤ think/consider (possible), in Ro 14:2 perh. holds everything possible; cp. J 9:18 Ac 9:26. S. 4 above.—
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., pp. 816–818). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.​

I'm glad you have the desire to know more about Christ through education. But your much better off keeping yours eyes open for a gifted teacher God may put in your path.

I've only known one in 33 years. He teaches at a Stanford University level, and owns the largest collection of biblical manuscripts in private hands behind the Vatican. So he has all original documents at his finger tips to teach from.

I've been learning at this level daily for over 33 years. And been having the true Salvation experience at the same time.

You may want to consider what I put down to be tested .

 

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TRUST

Trust is a gift given from Elohim to man, man can't trust on his own.
Elohim gives man the ability to trust in him.