Can someone explain this logic to me?

[Inviolable]

No. Lesbians are not the ones trying to deny people's rights based on who they have sex with.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to those who are against giving rights to gays because of their feelings on gay sex. And yes, it has everything to do with the stigmas attached and bigotry.



Was this what you were getting at all along? Gay people have already realized this. Smart gay people steer clear from hitting on those who maybe straight. Yeah..old news. Wow.

No, thats just frustration. I'm done.

 

[fanatiquefou]

You mean one other person?

And the fact that you dont even want to watch makes me wonder how un-disgusting you'll find it when its being performed on you.
You dont even want to see it.

You know what, I wouldn't want to watch other people having straight sex, either. If you get a kick out of watching straight sex, that's your business, but I tend to think of sex as a private activity - I wouldn't want anyone looking in on me, and I don't want to look in on anyone else. (Now two hot guys kissing - yeah, I kind of find that attractive. )

As far as how "un-disgusting" I'd find gay sex when it's "being performed on me" - if sex that I'm not interested in is "being performed on me", as you say, then it's rape, and I seriously doubt I'm going to be enjoying myself. Gay people generally don't go around forcing straight people into sex with them, you know. And saying that gay sex doesn't appeal to me at all personally doesn't mean I find it disgusting, or that I can't conceive of how other people might enjoy it. I don't like bananas or American cheese, either, but I'm not disgusted and offended when other people enjoy them. Nor do I think my own personal reactions to something is a good reason to legislate against it.

 

[IzzyPop]

I dont agree with what you're saying. There is that aspect of course but that in no way is the heart of the matter. That would be on the surface of what I am saying.

The whole homosexual sex is repulsive/disgusting/icky is the surface level of what I am talking about, not the other way around. I am talking about why straight people find homosexual male sex to be disturbing, not just the idea that some people do.

The kind of fear you're talking about had to be generated from somewhere. Men aren't simply afraid of dimensioning their manhood for no reason.

It is a cultural thing. We are brought up to be 'manly'. It is taught from an early age. Note my examples in my previous post. That is one of the reasons that the 'accepted' lesbians are of the lipstick variety and not the butch type. It goes along with a culturally based gender identity and homosexuals, in some people's minds, defy the gender rules. Gay men take of aspects that we are taught are feminine and gay women take on aspects that we are taught are masculine.

Besides, hetero women dont agree with lesbian sex

As a society, we Americans are much more comfortable with lesbian sex than with gay male sex. Men and women alike are more likely to be aroused by girl on girl than by man on man. Yes, you can point to specific examples of women that are freaked out by lesbian sex, so can I. But the percentages of women freaked out by this are smaller than the percentages of males freaked out by gay male sex. This only goes to help prove my point that the ick factor has more to do with the male being sexually penetrated than with the participants involved. Once again, there is a huge stigma associated with females penetrating males during sex. I worked with a teen AIDS group several years back when I was a teenager. Since it dealt with teens and sex we had to be well versed in all kinds of sexually related stuff due to the fact that once a teen felt that they could trust us, all kinds of questions followed. And not just about AIDS. They had all kinds of questions concerning sexuality that they felt they could not ask anyone they knew. And a frequent question was along the lines of "I like girls, but I also like anal play done to me. Am I gay? Am I bi?" You see, they thought that since they liked to be penetrated they were gay. Even though they were not attracted to men, the fact that they enjoyed receiving as opposed to giving, they questioned their sexuality.

and men only enjoy watching lesbian sex when the women performing it are attractive. I'd dare say some men would watch any attractive woman do just about anything as long as she was naked.

And you will find more women watching this than you would find men watching naked men do something. In our society women are beautiful. Man not so much. If you were to call a man beautiful, you call into doubt his sexuality in many people's minds. See Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves, Leanardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp. All of these men are attractive and all of them have gay rumors. And one of the reasons is because the simple fact of their physical beauty is , in our culture, a feminine trait.

 

[sister_maynard]

You mean one other person?

And the fact that you dont even want to watch makes me wonder how un-disgusting you'll find it when its being performed on you.
You dont even want to see it.

I wouldn't want to watch people having straight sex either- it's an issue of how comfortable I would feel watching people do something intimate and sexual.
One general question: what exactly is the gay community saying that "we know you think gay sex is disgusting" supposed to solve?