Can dad argue without assuming God exists?

[Atheuz]

Seriously, every single time I have seen him write anything it's under the assumption that God exists beyond any doubt and it doesn't need to be proven. Also, he seems to think everybody believes in God.

So can he?

 

[dad]

Seriously, every single time I have seen him write anything it's under the assumption that God exists beyond any doubt and it doesn't need to be proven. Also, he seems to think everybody believes in God.

So can he?

Can you breathe without assuming your lungs exist?

 

[Dannager]

Breath requires lungs. Argument doesn't require god belief.

 

[DrunkenWrestler]

How do you reason with someone who's completely delusional? How do you cure someone of True Believer's Syndrome? How do you apply logic and the scientific method to someone who arbitrarily invents their own self-contradicting system of knowledge? How do you tell if a CF poster might be an atheist in disguise? I have no idea...

 

[DrunkenWrestler]

Can you breathe without assuming your lungs exist?

Yes.

 

[spiritplumber]

People throughout history thought while assuming that the brain was a cooling system for their blood, so yes...


Dad, would you be willing to follow your beliefs to the logical conclusion, and actually live by them?

 

[lemmings]

He also operates on the assumption that every single story in the Bible is true and that the entire universe in corrupt.

 

[HumanisticJones]

Seriously, every single time I have seen him write anything it's under the assumption that God exists beyond any doubt and it doesn't need to be proven. Also, he seems to think everybody believes in God.

So can he?

How can you make any assumptions about dad's posts in the past? You can't go back in time and see him posting so your science can't say anything about then. You can only comment on what he is posting right now. Before the split his posts were different.

 

[Upisoft]

Can you breathe without assuming your lungs exist?

Of course. A new-born baby breathes withiout assuming anything.

 

[Parmenio]

How can you make any assumptions about dad's posts in the past? You can't go back in time and see him posting so your science can't say anything about then. You can only comment on what he is posting right now. Before the split his posts were different.

made of win and awesome

 

[FishFace]

Question dodging attempts by dad: 1. Posts by dad: 1.

Question dodging by dad - 100%

Will the witness please answer the question: can you argue for God's existence without assuming his existence? If so, show us how.

 

[Atheuz]

How can you make any assumptions about dad's posts in the past? You can't go back in time and see him posting so your science can't say anything about then. You can only comment on what he is posting right now. Before the split his posts were different.

It appears you didn't read my post:

"Seriously, every single time I have seen him write anything it's under the assumption that God exists beyond any doubt and it doesn't need to be proven"

So I was commenting on what he is posting right now, and it is more than enough to see how he is, right now.

 

[Travis St. Hubbins]

It appears you didn't read my post:

"Seriously, every single time I have seen him write anything it's under the assumption that God exists beyond any doubt and it doesn't need to be proven"

So I was commenting on what he is posting right now, and it is more than enough to see how he is, right now.

I think Mr Jones is lampooning a few of dad's favourite stock arguments against an old earth.

1. "You weren't there so you can't know what happened, therefore my ad hoc ramblings, with no evidence whatsoever, are as good as your heavily supported theory."

and

2. "In the past before 'the split' matter and spirit were as one; which makes any thoroughly implausible, bat-guano crazy idea that pops into my mind entirely possible."

Obviously I'm paraphrasing here.

 

[Atheuz]

I think Mr Jones is lampooning a few of dad's favourite stock arguments against an old earth.

1. "You weren't there so you can't know what happened, therefore my ad hoc ramblings, with no evidence whatsoever, are as good as your heavily supported theory."

and

2. "In the past before 'the split' matter and spirit were as one; which makes any thoroughly implausible, bat-guano crazy idea that pops into my mind entirely possible."

Obviously I'm paraphrasing here.

Oic, I'm a little slow today

 

[dad]

I think Mr Jones is lampooning a few of dad's favourite stock arguments against an old earth.

1. "You weren't there so you can't know what happened, therefore my ad hoc ramblings, with no evidence whatsoever, are as good as your heavily supported theory."

'Making up' so called stock arguments would be a better term, or strawman argument, since I say nothing like that. I think we can know what happened within reason for recorded history, perhaps less so as we approach the great event.

and

2. "In the past before 'the split' matter and spirit were as one; which makes any thoroughly implausible, bat-guano crazy idea that pops into my mind entirely possible."

When the spiritual is added, as God says,'all things are possible'. Don't blame me.

 

[dad]

Breath requires lungs. Argument doesn't require god belief.

It does if you know He exists as much as lungs exist. In fact, Jesus died, and had dead lungs, yet they were just fine after He rose from the dead.

 

[Atheuz]

It does if you know He exists as much as lungs exist. In fact, Jesus died, and had dead lungs, yet they were just fine after He rose from the dead.

There you go again, basing your argument on that everybody believes the same thing as you.

 

[dad]

There you go again, basing your argument on that everybody believes the same thing as you.

Well, no, but if one did know that, one would agrue from that perspective. I don't say you have to.

 

[Avatar]

How do you tell if a CF poster might be an atheist in disguise?

Is that the general consensus? Sounds bang-on to me.

 

[FishFace]

Well, no, but if one did know that, one would agrue from that perspective. I don't say you have to.

Question dodging attempts by dad: 4. Posts by dad: 4.

Question dodging by dad - 100%

Will the witness please answer the question: can you argue for God's existence without assuming his existence? If so, show us how.