Can an evil spirit acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?

[Sunshinee777]

Can an evil spirit or demon ever acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, or confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, can they ever say that?

1 John 4:1-3 "1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God."

They don’t confess but they know who Jesus is. They are afraid of His name.

 

[Waymarker]

Jesus said of Satan-"He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies" (John 8:44)
So it's therefore possible that a demonic person could follow suit and confess "Jesus is the Christ" to try to fool us into thinking he/she is a christian.
I like Jesus's advice on how to detect phoney christians, we need to look at them in context of everything they say and do.
Jesus said - "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.You will know them by their fruits... every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit...Therefore by their fruits you'll know them" (Matt 7:15-20)

Personally I know of several such phonies, for example one is a male street preacher and another is a female member of a church choir.

 

[catzrfluffy]

Everything the spirits that confessed Jesus Christ is come in the flesh said has come true or been true so far, despite my initial doubts, and since I last posted. Especially I was told I would meet someone and something would occur, and this happened although this was extremely unlikely, near impossible. So I guess this test does work, and is a sure fire way of receiving prophecy, and for telling if something you are told is from God and is true. This is what I have found.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Everything the spirits that confessed Jesus Christ is come in the flesh said has come true or been true so far, despite my initial doubts, and since I last posted. Especially I was told I would meet someone and something would occur, and this happened although this was extremely unlikely, near impossible. So I guess this test does work, and is a sure fire way of receiving prophecy, and for telling if something you are told is from God and is true. This is what I have found.

Spirits need to confess that Jesus is risen in the flesh and has concurred death.

"Is come in the flesh" is not enough.

And Satan will confirm his lies by "co-incidence"

 

[johansen]

Spirits need to confess that Jesus is risen in the flesh and has concurred death.

"Is come in the flesh" is not enough.

And Satan will confirm his lies by "co-incidence"

i've become skeptical of any verbal test of spirits.

i've always understood "is come" is past present future tense, so i think that for people who understand that, the test seems to work.

 

[Carl Emerson]

i've become skeptical of any verbal test of spirits.

i've always understood "is come" is past present future tense, so i think that for people who understand that, the test seems to work.

I don't converse with demon spirits period.

I stand in authority over them and tell them what they must do in Jesus name.

 

[johansen]

I don't converse with demon spirits period.

I stand in authority over them and tell them what they must do in Jesus name.

Mankind by default does not know who is speaking to them until they learn the voice print. Thats the whole point of a "test of spirits".

The usual rebuttal is "my sheep know my voice and will not listen to another"

Thus, if you dont know what speaks to you, you are not saved.

Thus there is no test of spirits because the christian does not need one.

do you have a problem with such a point of view?

 

[timewerx]

Can an evil spirit or demon ever acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, or confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, can they ever say that?

1 John 4:1-3 "1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God."

Based on experience, I think evil spirits could.

However there maybe people who will not acknowledge Christ has come in the flesh so maybe John is talking about some people when he mentioned "spirits".

 

[timewerx]

i've become skeptical of any verbal test of spirits.

Me too, In my experience, evil spirits seem capable of every lie including pretending to believe the tenets of Christianity.

I think St. John's passage is possibly pointing to a group of people and not literally spirits but people who may be influenced by an unGodly spirit.

 

[johansen]

Me too, In my experience, evil spirits seem capable of every lie including pretending to believe the tenets of Christianity.

I think St. John's passage is possibly pointing to a group of people and not literally spirits but people who may be influenced by an unGodly spirit.

For years demons tried to fool me with every permutation of leaving 1 word out of "i confess Jesus Christ is come in the flesh"

(Jesus is the person, Christ is the office so to speak. like saying i confess obama is come in the flesh, but i'm a birther and he isn't the president because he was born in kenya" so i won't say the president obama, but i will admit obama was elected. )

and so for what its worth, in 12 years of being on the internet in religious forums, when this topic comes up, i have never met someone who could confidently tell me, a demon told them "i confess Jesus Christ is come in the flesh"

Secondarily, spirits from God, would instantly speak those words before i even finished replying back to them, demanding the test of spirits from 1 john 4:2. meaning they knew what i was going to say before i said it. demons don't have that capacity.

Demons on the other hand, in general.. will always get angry the moment you question them, or they will respond in an unrighteous manner outside the usual, kind gentile responses you'll get from Jesus.

I had a friend years ago who told me she would make the spirits recite the nicean creed, as a test of spirits. the moment she told me this, a demon started reciting the creed to me, and i told it to shut up. the only way i knew it was a demon was, the context, the mocking voice print, etc.

As far as telling the difference between an unclean one and a clean one.. you can't tell by voice print alone. sometimes you can tell by the emotions, (anger wrath, hate, jealousy).. they can't fake the presence of a loving God.

I think that a lot of people just listen to what feels good to them. and, strangely i think that can work as long as you have time to ponder the message and pray about it, read the bible, and ask for confirmation.

Another friend of mine told me once, something told her to drive through a red light. she was getting close to actually doing it, and her 9 yr old son yelled, "mom no!" --Turns out the 10 yr old heard the demon speak to his mom, and knew it was a demon, while the mom was confused.

which brings another interesting memory, back in 2012 when i met them, i spiritually sort of knew the son was saved but not her daughter. a few years later, 2014 maybe, in a vision at like 9 am i saw the mother and the son, holding hands looking up at God with joy in their hearts. i didn't see the daughter. while pondering the vision, half an hour later she texted me for the first time in like 6 months at that point, and asks "does God ever show you what he's going to do in a persons life before he does it?" and i'm just like dumbfounded. and i reply "no but i saw you half an hour ago, does that count? and she just replies "not what God is doing". maybe i should have just told her plainly what i saw. but, i'm not sure she would be any less creeped out.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Mankind by default does not know who is speaking to them until they learn the voice print. Thats the whole point of a "test of spirits".

The usual rebuttal is "my sheep know my voice and will not listen to another"

Thus, if you dont know what speaks to you, you are not saved.

Thus there is no test of spirits because the christian does not need one.

do you have a problem with such a point of view?

Yes I do... because the journey out of darkness for some is learning to resist Satan and deceiving spirits. Being born again does not mean release from spiritual war. Jesus had to deal with satanic voices - so at times do we.

 

[johansen]

Yes I do... because the journey out of darkness for some is learning to resist Satan and deceiving spirits. Being born again does not mean release from spiritual war. Jesus had to deal with satanic voices - so at times do we.

so what is your antidote?

 

[Carl Emerson]

so what is your antidote?

Be truely born again, so you have the authority to deal with intrusions.

Be in healthy, loving christian fellowship that has the anointing to deal with spiritual intrusions.

Study Scripture alone daily for years, not months or days.

Learn what is means to renounce.

Pray for a hatred of evil.

Pray for an agony of spirit if you deviate from His best.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

Can an evil spirit or demon ever acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, or confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, can they ever say that?

1 John 4:1-3 "1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God."

I answered yes a demon can acknowledge Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.
Along with the passage you cite are some of the miracles...esp. healing a demon possessed man where He sent them into the swine. But there are others and the account of Simon the sorcerer in Acts. I'd cite more, but am on this phone and I'm awkward.
In all the cases I cite...and more the demons are acknowledging Jesus as Christ.

 

[Muhan]

Can an evil spirit acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?​

Of course they can,
they talked to Him all the time
while he was in the flesh on earth.

 

[johansen]

I answered yes a demon can acknowledge Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

Has. Yes. They wont acknowledge he was ressurected in the flesh

 

[TruthInLight]

I think that a lot of people just listen to what feels good to them. and, strangely i think that can work as long as you have time to ponder the message and pray about it, read the bible, and ask for confirmation.

Going by what feels good is why people do things to sow to their flesh. It might not be the right thing.

 

[johansen]

Going by what feels good is why people do things to sow to their flesh. It might not be the right thing.

if you look at it from a christian who is born again point of view, what feels good in your spirit is truth.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

In my opinion demons will say what ever they think will gain them the greatest advantage. If they come to you with a message, that is not of God, they may well say "Jesus is the son of God", why, they want you to believe a lie.

It is very hard to discern voices, and spiritual messages. Although there is the gift of prophecy, it can be counterfeited by demons. Even a person who genuinely prophesies could listen to a demon if they were not careful.

I know of YouTube channels where people prophecy, have 100,000 of followers, yet they are still being seeded with error. They use all sort of methods, to discern if the voice is God, or the devil, but in the end, all the methods do nothing to prevent the error.

 

[Carl Emerson]

if you look at it from a christian who is born again point of view, what feels good in your spirit is truth.

This is seriously dangerous - discernment is not an individual sport. Prophets were subject to one another.