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Discussion in 'Debates on Abortion' started by (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ), May 20, 2019.

  1. ChristianForCats

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    Able to breathe, drink, digest milk, and pee naturally outside the mother's uterus IMO. But I don't know if seven former judges agreed with that description.
     
  2. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

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  3. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The ancient world was rife with orgies and idolatry too. I dont understand your point and I dont hear much discussion about abortion in the ancient world.
     
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    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    In nazi Germany, it was secular law that made murdering Jews legal. But I guess we should have just "accepted that fact" and do nothing. Btw...there is nothing in the constitution which gives anyone a right to abortion.
     
  5. JacksBratt

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    So, again, a person in a coma ,cannot breathe, drink, digest anything or pee naturally. Does that mean that if the mother of this person wanted to.. they could cut them up into pieces and dispose of them?
     
  6. JacksBratt

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    So, if laws are passed, in America, that state that you cannot worship in your church, talk about Christ, teach your kids about Jesus and the gospel, own and read a bible, openly witness to non believers.... that Christians would have to accept that fact too? Due to the "secular laws of America?
     
  7. St_Worm2

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    How do you know that this is true :scratch:

    1. That abortions were a common practice in ancient Israel and
    2. That ancient Israel considered the fetus to be a part of the mother's body (rather than a separate life within the mother).
    Please give us references (concerning Israel alone, not the pagan nations of the ancient world).

    Thank you!

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    Psalm 139
    13 Thou didst form my inward parts;
    Thou didst weave me in my mother’s womb.
    14 I will give thanks to Thee, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    Wonderful are Thy works,
    And my soul knows it very well.
    15 My frame was not hidden from Thee,
    When I was made in secret,
    And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth.
    16 Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance;
    And in Thy book they were all written,
    The days that were ordained for me,
    When as yet there was not one of them.

    .
     
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  8. Shiloh Raven

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    I posted a link to the Got Questions article on the same topic earlier, but it was ignored.
     
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  9. Shiloh Raven

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    (1) Slavery in America was legal for 89 years.

    (2) Segregation and discrimination against minorities was legal in America.

    The United States government and its laws aren't always a guide to human decency and morality. The abolishment of slavery and the Jim Crow Laws happened when people collectively stood up and fought against these immoral and unjust laws. And that is how drastic social change happens. Immoral laws that lessen the value of human beings aren't challenged and crucial social change won't happen when people are complacent by refusing to stand up and speak out against immoral and unjust laws.
     
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  10. ChristianForCats

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    When did I say the right to have an abortion is moral just because it is legal? I was only stating the facts, which are:
    1. The right to life in America is determined by the U.S. Constitution and current federal laws.
    2. Supreme Court rulings can only be based on what the majority of nine judges believe, not the Bible.
     
  11. ChristianForCats

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    No such laws would ever be written because of the First Amendment. You have no comparison.
     
  12. Aldebaran

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    There are many laws that supposedly couldn't be written due to several different amendments of the Constitution, but it didn't stop them from being written.
     
  13. ChristianForCats

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    Murdering Jews has nothing to do with any constitutional amendment or Supreme Court ruling.

    There most certainly is, or the Supreme Court would not have voted in Jane Roe's favor.
     
  14. ChristianForCats

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    Are you just making hypothetical guesses for the sake of argument?
     
  15. ChristianForCats

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    I already stated I will not answer the question. Either drop it or be reported.
     
  16. JacksBratt

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    Spoken like a true sheep..... People in Germany, in the 20's and 30's could have thought the same way..

    Never say never....
     
  17. JacksBratt

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    I gotta bow out here folks. This other poster is blind to the things that they are saying..

    I doubt a thread on a forum will change their mind.

    So, remember, Jesus Loves Everyone.
     
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  18. Aldebaran

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    Well, the Second Amendment has caused a number of laws regarding guns to be struck down. But those laws were written (and passed) in the first place.
     
  19. ChristianForCats

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    That has nothing to do with abortion.
     
  20. JacksBratt

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    I will ask it again then..... What is there to report? It's a simple question..

    Report it if you feel that it is reportable... I have asked nothing that is outside of the CF guidelines...
     
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