Calvinist Minister interview Catholic Scholar on Eucharist and Beatific Vision

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This is really great and truly ecumenical. Two Calvinist ministers interview my Professor of Theology Dr. Lawrence Feingold on the Eucharist and St. Thomas understanding of the beatific vision. Its really good. He beautifully describes the sacrifice of the eucharist and real presence(or what we would call transubstantiation) in a beautiful way.


 
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This is really great and truly ecumenical. Two Calvinist ministers interview my Professor of Theology Dr. Lawrence Feingold on the Eucharist and St. Thomas understanding of the beatific vision. Its really good. He beautifully describes the sacrifice of the eucharist and real presence(or what we would call transubstantiation) in a beautiful way.


Be aware that transubstantiation is an attempt to explain HOW the real presence happens.

While all the pre-reformation churches believe that the bread and wine truly and objectively become the Body and Blood of Christ, most of the Eastern Churches do not cling to transubstantiaation as the means.
 
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Be aware that transubstantiation is an attempt to explain HOW the real presence happens.

While all the pre-reformation churches believe that the bread and wine truly and objectively become the Body and Blood of Christ, most of the Eastern Churches do not cling to transubstantiaation as the means.

I sure do understand that Eastern Catholics generally do not use Latin terminology but they still hold the same concepts hence that it why they can be united to the Church of Rome and the Pope. You know that as Catholics we are not trying to explain exactly how the mystery happens. It still a mystery. God has just clarified for us a deeper understanding of that mystery. As an Eastern Catholic(Melkite) in union with the Holy Father of Rome and the Catholic Church you cannot deny the truth of transubstantiation(which has been infallibly defined at the council of Trent) even if you do not use western terms yourself to describe it.

Many eastern Orthodox use the term to describe the mystical and supernatural change in the elements. Even the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia uses the term and admits many do.

"It is true that sometimes Orthodox theologians will make use of what came out of Latin scholasticism, the term “transubstantiation” (in Greek μετουσίωσης). Orthodox however generally emphasize that the manner of change is a mystery and must always remain incomprehensible." Taken from here:

http://www.greekorthodox.org.au/?page_id=3382

Eastern Catholics as well as Western also acknowledge that the Eucharist is a divine mystery that we cannot ever full comprehend. A mystery is something that can be understood but not fully comprehended because we are finite and God is infinite.

Here is Dr. Anthony Dragani, an Eastern Catholic theologian who does not deny the reality of transubstantiation.


"When does transubstantiation take place in the Divine Liturgy?

Concerning the moment of “transubstantiation,” Eastern Catholic theology does not narrow in exclusively on the words of institution as being the moment of consecration. The Eastern Church Fathers taught that the Eucharist mysteriously becomes the body and blood of Christ sometime during the anaphora (Eucharistic prayer). Eastern Catholics have traditionally placed a great emphasis on the epiclesis, which is the moment in which the Holy Spirit is called down upon the gifts to transform them into the Body and Blood of Christ. In the great Eatern Liturgies, which we still use, the epiclesis comes after the words of institution."

Taken from his website from "East to West"
Liturgy & Sacraments | From East to West
 
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