California to Provide Free College by Taxing Millionaires

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When you take from someone simply because they make more than someone else, and it is against their consent, that is robbery. This is not a righteous act. It is socialism, and there has never been one successful socialist country.

People should be motivated to give to the poor out of their love for God and for people. You cannot legislate morality without a heart focused on God.
 
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Liberals just love other people's money.

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump has a plan to pay off the national debt, grant a middle class a tax cut, and keep Social Security afloat: tax rich people like himself.

Trump, a prospective candidate for the Reform Party presidential nomination, is proposing a one-time "net worth tax" on individuals and trusts worth $10 million or more.

By Trump's calculations, his proposed 14.25 percent levy on such net worth would raise $5.7 trillion
 
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Billionaire businessman Donald Trump has a plan to pay off the national debt, grant a middle class a tax cut, and keep Social Security afloat: tax rich people like himself.

Trump, a prospective candidate for the Reform Party presidential nomination, is proposing a one-time "net worth tax" on individuals and trusts worth $10 million or more.

By Trump's calculations, his proposed 14.25 percent levy on such net worth would raise $5.7 trillion

I have to agree that Trump is a liberal. He has been spending other people's money for a long time has he not?
 
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When you take from someone simply because they make more than someone else, and it is against their consent, that is robbery. This is not a righteous act. It is socialism, and there has never been one successful socialist country.

People should be motivated to give to the poor out of their love for God and for people. You cannot legislate morality without a heart focused on God.
our laws allow legislators to impose taxes, last i checked. If people in a state dont like legislation being passed, they can complain to their representative and show up on voting day.
 
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What gets me is people are still calling it free, even though they tell us exactly where the money is coming from. It's not FREE. Colleges won't be giving away anything and absorbing the costs themselves. This is just robbery by government. I wonder if this guy runs around his house in green tights and a little-pointed hat declaring, "I am Robin Hood!".

Wonder what their plan will be when the "rich" start moving out and taking their money with them.
 
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So, not only is it immoral, it will drive college tuition costs up further.

Good job California.

Cap costs then.

The American education system is scandalously overpriced to the point it's frankly extortionate in places.

Capped tuition works well in my country and we still maintain the top ranked university in the world with a second university in the top 5. And our fees are capped at $11500 per year.
 
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our laws allow legislators to impose taxes, last i checked. If people in a state dont like legislation being passed, they can complain to their representative and show up on voting day.
or, as many have already done , they can move to a more reasonable State.
 
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What gets me is people are still calling it free, even though they tell us exactly where the money is coming from. It's not FREE. Colleges won't be giving away anything and absorbing the costs themselves. This is just robbery by government. I wonder if this guy runs around his house in green tights and a little-pointed hat declaring, "I am Robin Hood!".

Wonder what their plan will be when the "rich" start moving out and taking their money with them.
Oh, all the rich people in California are leaving, just like right-wingers have been predicting for the last 30 years or so. They've been moving to Mississippi, where it's nice and conservative. That's why Mississippi has such a strong economy, low unemployment rate, and high standard of living. (I almost added, and exemplary educational system, but clearly what's at issue here is that the right doesn't value education.)
 
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Cap costs then.

The American education system is scandalously overpriced to the point it's frankly extortionate in places.

Yeah because the government got involved. You can't fix a problem with ore of the thing that caused the problem. If you want costs to go down then get the government out of it and make students consumers.
 
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or, as many have already done , they can move to a more reasonable State.
That's right, they're doing precisely that, too, just like right-wingers have been predicting. Hadn't you heard that they've already relocated the Hollywood sign to a hill in West Virginia? I'm pretty sure I read that on one of those ultra-reputable sites I keep seeing cited here.
 
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Yeah because the government got involved. You can't fix a problem with ore of the thing that caused the problem. If you want costs to go down then get the government out of it and make students consumers.
Absolutely right. Those 13th Century monks had the greatest educational system ever.
 
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Cap costs then.

The American education system is scandalously overpriced to the point it's frankly extortionate in places.

Capped tuition works well in my country and we still maintain the top ranked university in the world with a second university in the top 5. And our fees are capped at $11500 per year.

Actually the US government does not seem interested in capping costs at all. As the government seems to be encouraging universities to exponentially increase tuituion far beyond the rate of inflation by simply handing out loans to students. Universities have encouraged students to take those loans even though they must be aware that the education they provide will in no way make those loans worth it. The point of higher education in the US, IMO, has become the enrichment of professors (in particular those that do not actually personally do any teaching) and administrators rather than the training of minds.

So if there were a 1% or whatever % one might choose as a Millionaire tax that actually brought in the amount predicted or an amount in excess , from my experience, the cry from some would be that higher education was not achieving positive results because it was not fully funded. If every dollar of every person's income in the entire world were to be appropriated and spent on the US education system the people in charge of the inadequate return on that investment would still claim the poor results were from lack of funding. No other people engaged in any other endeavor have the chutzpah to claim that their failure to achieve even modest goals is a reason to give them more money.
 
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