California Governor to Vatican: 'Brainwashing' needed to tackle climate change

[Go Braves]

Good gravy, how old is that video? Is this a thread all about dumping on Jerry Brown or his speech at the Vatican about climate change? I'm assuming folks can't just waltz into the Vatican, make a speech in front of the Pope. So the Vatican invited him, right? If they thought he was this horrible person, or somebody clueless about climate change I doubt they'd do that.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Good gravy, how old is that video?

It makes no difference how old it is.

Jerry Brown is still Jerry Brown and still has the same personality now that he did then.

 

[Go Braves]

It makes no difference how old it is.

Jerry Brown is still Jerry Brown and still has the same personality now that he did then.

Well, to repeat, the Vatican invited him to give the speech we're talking about right here. Is your only agenda here to try to trash Brown, not talk about what he & the Pope have said about climate change? This wasn't the 1st time the Vatican invited Brown.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Well, to repeat, the Vatican invited him to give the speech we're talking about right here. Is your only agenda here to try to trash Brown, not talk about what he & the Pope have said about climate change? This wasn't the 1st time the Vatican invited Brown.

I didn't make Jerry Brown say what he did. And it wasn't like he was secretly recorded saying what he did in that video. He said it openly to the public. So the only one to blame for it is him.

 

[Go Braves]

I didn't make Jerry Brown say what he did. And it wasn't like he was secretly recorded saying what he did in that video. He said it openly to the public. So the only one to blame for it is him.

This is a really strange response. Never implied you made Jerry Brown say what he did in that old video, the point is that it's totally besides the point, lol. Are you a climate change denier or something, angry that he was invited to speak (multiple times) at the Vatican about it & so your agenda here is just to poop on Brown to try to invalidate his comments?

 

[LivingWordUnity]

I believe that the climate has been changing since the beginning of the world. The most extreme climate change in history was the Ice Age and the subsequent thawing.

 

[Go Braves]

I believe that the climate has been changing since the beginning of the world.

So is that a yes to my question?

What do you think about Pope Francis' statements on climate change?

 

[LivingWordUnity]

What do you think about Pope Francis' statements on climate change?

I know that Francis' statement on climate change isn't binding on Catholics. He even admits that in his encyclical. But I agree with what he said about respecting divergent views on climate change.

"On many concrete questions [on climate change], the Church has no reason to offer a definitive opinion; she knows that honest debate must be encouraged among experts, while respecting divergent views." - Laudato si', 61​

What is your opinion on the Ice Age? Do you believe that it was man-made?

 

[LivingWordUnity]

I think the Ice Age is an inconvenient truth.

 

[Stabat Mater dolorosa]

"And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray." - Mt 24:11

Galatians 1:6-9 NABRE
Loyalty to the Gospel

6 I am amazed that you are so quickly forsaking the one who called you by the grace of Christ for a different gospel 7 (not that there is another). But there are some who are disturbing you and wish to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach [to you] a gospel other than the one that we preached to you, let that one be accursed! 9 As we have said before, and now I say again, if anyone preaches to you a gospel other than the one that you received, let that one be accursed!

 

[Stabat Mater dolorosa]

California Governor Jerry Brown- a one time Jesuit seminarian from a one-party state-said the dangers posed by climate change required a radical "transformation" in the world's response.

Continued below.
California Gov. to Vatican: ‘Brainwashing’ Needed to Tackle Climate Change

Ahh, now I understand, he was a Jesuit. That explains it all.

 

[Go Braves]

I know that Francis' statement on climate change isn't binding on Catholics. He even admits that in his encyclical. But I agree with what he said about respecting divergent views on climate change.

"On many concrete questions [on climate change], the Church has no reason to offer a definitive opinion; she knows that honest debate must be encouraged among experts, while respecting divergent views." - Laudato si', 61​

What is your opinion on the Ice Age? Do you believe that it was man-made?

I'm glad the Pope has a healthy respect for science & has called for urgent action on climate change. He's an intelligent & decent man who isn't arrogant & isn't into ignorance either. He has chastised climate change deniers for failing in their duty to protect our “common home”. I respect him a lot for that.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

I'm glad the Pope has a healthy respect for science & has called for urgent action on climate change. He's an intelligent & decent man who isn't arrogant & isn't into ignorance either. He has chastised climate change deniers for failing in their duty to protect our “common home”. I respect him a lot for that.

Even if he did that, his opinion on climate change isn't binding on Catholics.

 

[Go Braves]

Even if he did that, his opinion on climate change isn't binding on Catholics.

He's made numerous statements of fact on climate change over the years, urging folks to be responsible. His wisdom might not be binding on Catholics, but I think it's very commendable.

 

[Stabat Mater dolorosa]

Climate changes are religion to some people. I'd rather the pope became a proponent of the gospel than that of the physical, material world which is going to end some day anyway.

 

[The Grouch]

Well, to repeat, the Vatican invited him to give the speech we're talking about right here. Is your only agenda here to try to trash Brown, not talk about what he & the Pope have said about climate change? This wasn't the 1st time the Vatican invited Brown.

And, and he isnt the only "evil" person thats been invited to the vatican recently

 

[Stabat Mater dolorosa]

nm.

 

[Go Braves]

And, and he isnt the only "evil" person thats been invited to the vatican recently

Lol, this is Poe's Law in action right now. Well good for anybody who gets the honor of an invitation to the Vatican.

 

[Go Braves]

Climate changes are religion to some people. I'd rather the pope became a proponent of the gospel than that of the physical, material world which is going to end some day anyway.

That's mighty dramatic. I don't think climate change is a religion to most folks & I definitely don't think it's the Pope's religion. Now, I do think that it's a part of his religion, of the Christian & Catholic faith, on account of how it's very clear in the Bible that we are to be stewards. I'd fully expect the Pope to respect the Bible & to live by it instead of clinging to the ignorance & irresponsibility of certain political leaders. He's right to call out the perverse attitudes.

Pope Francis denounces climate change deniers
Pope Francis denounces climate change deniers

Pope Francis denounced those who deny global warming and urged negotiators at climate talks in Germany to avoid falling prey to such "perverse attitudes" and instead accelerate efforts to curb greenhouse gas emissions.

Francis issued a message Thursday to the Bonn meeting, which is working to implement the 2015 Paris accord aimed at capping global emissions.

In the message, Francis called climate change "one of the most worrisome phenomena that humanity is facing," and urged negotiators to ignore special interests and political or economic pressures and instead engage in an honest dialogue about the future of the planet.

He denounced that such efforts are often frustrated by those who deny climate change, are indifferent to it, or think it can only be solved by technical solutions.

 

[The Grouch]

That's mighty dramatic. I don't think climate change is a religion to most folks & I definitely don't think it's the Pope's religion. Now, I do think that it's a part of his religion, of the Christian & Catholic faith, on account of how it's very clear in the Bible that we are to be stewards. I'd fully expect the Pope to respect the Bible & to live by it instead of clinging to the ignorance & irresponsibility of certain political leaders. He's right to call out the perverse attitudes.

Pope Francis denounces climate change deniers
Pope Francis denounces climate change deniers

No one denies that caring about the environment is good and right but the green movement, environmentalISM and climate change ideology has been not only infiltraited but completely directed by the communist marxist left to futher the cause of international communism

I am not against electric cars
Clean air and recycling

I am against the marxist communists usinging environmentalism to gain control over governments schools churches and ultimatly even.. EVEN every aspect if a human beings life