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Cain and Abel

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by visionary, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. pinacled

    pinacled Newbie

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    Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."
     
  2. Ken Rank

    Ken Rank Well-Known Member

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    Yes and?
     
  3. lettuce

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    She thought Cain was the one but he turned out to be a bad apple and when Seth came along, she thought he was the one. Little did she know that her time wasn't God's time.
     
  4. pinacled

    pinacled Newbie

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    Would you possibly have seen Adam as originally having knowledge of the Holy days.
     
  5. Hieronymus

    Hieronymus former ex-YEC

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    Genesis 4:1
    Does it say she got the child from the LORD?
    It says "Adam knew his wife", which is a euphemism for having intercourse.
     
  6. Hieronymus

    Hieronymus former ex-YEC

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    Intriguing question.
    One would almost think the unauthorised gain in knowledge resulted in a larger skull, causing painful birth.
    That's not what i believe though. But who knows?
    It may also be prophetic and referring to the birth pains in the end times.
     
  7. Denadii

    Denadii Active Member

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    You should read Genesis 4:1. Its right there
     
  8. kyredneck

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  9. tampasteve

    tampasteve Tampa, Florida, USA, Earth, Sol, Orion arm Supporter

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  10. kyredneck

    kyredneck New Member

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    <stifling> :D
     
  11. tampasteve

    tampasteve Tampa, Florida, USA, Earth, Sol, Orion arm Supporter

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    haha :)
    I see that you are Baptist (from the info on the left). Perhaps take a step back and remember that our religion (Christianity) is based on a faith that was Jewish for thousands of years before the Messiach came. It was steeped in the ritual and beliefs of the Jewish people. The disciples and first Christians worshiped as Jews or G-d Fearers for quite a while before leaving the synagogues. They also worshiped at the Temple and continued in the sacrificial system until the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD - so they continued making sacrifices via the Aaronic priesthood to Hashem as commanded by G-d for another 30 or so years after Yeshua ascended to Heaven. If they truly believed in replacement theology as well, why would they continue making sacrifices via the Aaronic priests until the Temple was destroyed? A decent argument can be made that the first believers were a Temple sect...
     
  12. BukiRob

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    charm or enchant (someone), sometimes in a deceptive way.
    "every prominent American artist has been beguiled by Maine"
    synonyms: charm, attract, enchant, entrance, win over, woo, captivate, bewitch, spellbind, dazzle, hypnotize, mesmerize, seduce
    "she was beguiled by his beauty"
    antonyms: repel
    trick (someone) into doing something.
    "they were beguiled into signing a peace treaty"
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    help (time) pass pleasantly.
    "to beguile some of the time they went to the movie theater"
    synonyms: entertain, amuse, delight, please, occupy, absorb, engage, distract, divert, fascinate, enthrall, engross
    "the program has been beguiling children for years"
    antonyms: bore
     
  13. Mercymessianicjudiasm

    Mercymessianicjudiasm New Member

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    I uphold Yeshua is the Messiah.
     
  14. AbbaLove

    AbbaLove Circumcision of the Heart is Messianic

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    ... And Yet Again ...
     
  15. Lulav

    Lulav Congregation and Theology Admin Staff Member Administrator Supporter CF Senior Ambassador

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    Cain and Abel
    Were they born around the same time?

     
  16. BukiRob

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    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE NOAHIDE LAW!!!!!!!

    Strong's Hebrew: 7673. שָׁבַת (shabath) -- to

    7673. shabath This is the word used in the Hebrew in Genesis 2:2
     
  17. Elihoenai

    Elihoenai Who has ceased to eat Manna?

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    You would have to be certain about Cain and Abel to know if they were born at different times.

    Jehovah/Yahweh didn't look on Cain's offering and Abel's offering he did look.

    There is a Serpent Seed!

    Genesis 3:15 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

    15 and enmity I put between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he doth bruise thee -- the head, and thou dost bruise him -- the heel.'
     
  18. Christie insb

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    . Why do you think Adam and Eve didn't have sex in the garden? Sex isn't the original sin, you know. If they were in the deep harmony I think of, I think sex would be part of the equation. Besides, wasn't there a "be fruitful and multiply" blessing/command to the couple before they left the garden? Genesis 1:28.
     
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  19. Open Heart

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    I see no reason why Adam and Eve didn't have sex before eating of the fruit. Since there WAS fruit, it's obvious that the plants were having sex.
     
  20. Mercymessianicjudiasm

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    Plants reproduce Asexually, without sex.
     
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