Cain and Abel: parents edition

[Emmylouwho]

Cain and Abel. Sibling rivalry. Culminating in murder.

Parents: do you foster rivalry between your children?

Why did God do that with Cain and Abel? It ended in fratricide. WHO DOES THAT? Why create such mischief?

The very first children born. Why did God screw it up right from the get-go?

 

[devin553344]

Cain and Abel. Sibling rivalry. Culminating in murder.

Parents: do you foster rivalry between your children?

Why did God do that with Cain and Abel? It ended in fratricide. WHO DOES THAT? Why create such mischief?

The very first children born. Why did God screw it up right from the get-go?

I think it would be appropriate to put the blame on Satan here And Cain too.

 

[Emmylouwho]

I think it would be appropriate to put the blame on Satan here And Cain too.

How so? Please explain.

 

[Not David]

What did God do? Why is He blamed for everything?

 

[Jonaitis]

Cain and Abel. Sibling rivalry. Culminating in murder.

Parents: do you foster rivalry between your children?

Why did God do that with Cain and Abel? It ended in fratricide. WHO DOES THAT? Why create such mischief?

The very first children born. Why did God screw it up right from the get-go?

I don't understand your point. Abel didn't rival with Cain.

You must remember that though the account focuses on two brothers, they weren't the only ones (Genesis 5:4). The events that took place between these two were written down as a lesson to us today, and we are to learn from it. If they presented an offering to God from their flocks and fields, then it must have been something they often practiced in time past. It is likely the climatic point of their deteriorating relationship that this account takes place, it doesn't follow that a one-time circumstance like this motivated someone to murder their brother (such close of kin!) unless they've long held a grudge against them.

God did no wrong. He accepted the pleasing offering from Abel, because he offered it in faith and with a good heart. Parents are not wrong to reward or praise one child for the good they do, while if the other didn't do so well that no praise is given. God even encouraged Cain after the fact.

 

[Emmylouwho]

What did God do? Why is He blamed for everything?

Responsibility rolls UP. Or so it should.

 

[Emmylouwho]

G

I don't understand your point. Abel didn't rival with Cain.

You must remember that though the account focuses on two brothers, they weren't the only ones (Genesis 5:4). The events that took place between these two were written down as a lesson to us today, and we are to learn from it. If they presented an offering to God from their flocks and fields, then it must have been something they often practiced in time past. It is likely the climatic point of their deteriorating relationship that this account takes place, it doesn't follow that a one-time circumstance like this motivated someone to murder their brother (such close of kin!) unless they've long held a grudge against them.

God did no wrong. He accepted the pleasing offering from Abel, because he offered it in faith and with a good heart. Parents are not wrong to reward or praise one child for the good they do, while if the other didn't do so well that no praise is given.

Gramps played favorites and let the kids know. He stirred the pot. Wise parents and grandparents know better.

 

[devin553344]

How so? Please explain.

God doesn't tempt people. James 1:13

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"

 

[A_Thinker]

Cain and Abel. Sibling rivalry. Culminating in murder.

Parents: do you foster rivalry between your children?

Why did God do that with Cain and Abel? It ended in fratricide. WHO DOES THAT? Why create such mischief?

The very first children born. Why did God screw it up right from the get-go?

What did God have to do with it ?

Adam and Eve had two sons. One performed well, the other didn't. That's a common situation.

The son that didn't perform well envied and grew angry at the son who did. God did intervene to personally warn Cain that his path forward was potentially murderous if he didn't get a handle on it. Cain disdained God's words and proceeded to kill his brother.

 

[A_Thinker]

Responsibility rolls UP. Or so it should.

So ... are you responsible for all of your children's life choices ?

 

[A_Thinker]

G

Gramps played favorites and let the kids know. He stirred the pot. Wise parents and grandparents know better.

He didn't play favorites. He rewarded good performance. Is that a problem ?

 

[coffee4u]

Cain and Abel. Sibling rivalry. Culminating in murder.

Parents: do you foster rivalry between your children?

Why did God do that with Cain and Abel? It ended in fratricide. WHO DOES THAT? Why create such mischief?

The very first children born. Why did God screw it up right from the get-go?

Who said God fostered rivelry between them? Where do you get that from scripture?

It isn't God who is screwing up people, it's people. God says love him and love other people but most don't follow those two principles. Just look around at the news or people that you know of. If they were actually following what God said to love each other you think most of what happens would be happening? People allow pride and greed to rule over them and those two things are at the centre of most sin.

 

[Emmylouwho]

What did God have to do with it ?

Adam and Eve had two sons. One performed well, the other didn't. That's a common situation.

The son that didn't perform well envied and grew angry at the son who did. God did intervene to personally warn Cain that his path forward was potentially murderous if he didn't get a handle on it. Cain disdained God's words and proceeded to kill his brother.

The first person ever born gave God a gift. It wasn’t good enough. Imagine, your first grandchild gives you a gift. His/her countenance falls when you have not only disappointment, but also NO RESPECT for the fruits of his/her labor.

We are talking about God’s FIRST grandchild. If Cain wasn’t good enough for God, there is no chance that YOU will ever pass muster.

 

[Emmylouwho]

God doesn't tempt people. James 1:13

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"

Just because James said it, don’t make it so. God tempted Adam and Eve, and then baited Cain against Abel. None of it was necessary or productive or loving.

 

[devin553344]

Just because James said it, don’t make it so. God tempted Adam and Eve, and then baited Cain against Abel. None of it was necessary or productive or loving.

God commanded Adam and Eve to do good and Cain and Able also. I think you're confusing yourself somehow about who God is and what his nature is.

 

[coffee4u]

Cain and Abel were not God's grandchildren, they were the son's of Adam and Eve and had no grandparents at all.

Cain did not bring a gift to God like that, he did what he had been told to do while burning with resentment over it. Bit like someone going to church while wishing they were not there. Many times we give things that we don't want to be giving. We give because it's the law like taxes or we give because we have been taught it's the correct thing to do, but in our heart we don't want to be giving this money or time at all. We do it with resentment. This is why his 'gift' was rejected.

 

[Emmylouwho]

God commanded Adam and Eve to do good and Cain and Able also. I think you're confusing yourself somehow about who God is and what his nature is.

God commanded Adam and Eve to not eat fruit from a tree which he placed for them to see. What PARENT does that? No-brainer.

 

[Emmylouwho]

So ... are you responsible for all of your children's life choices ?

If my kid killed someone, you better believe I’m gonna take responsibility.

 

[devin553344]

God commanded Adam and Eve to not eat fruit from a tree which he placed for them to see. What PARENT does that? No-brainer.

I love God, I don't judge him. I'm not sure what you are saying about God. Can you explain?

 

[Emmylouwho]

Cain and Abel were not God's grandchildren, they were the son's of Adam and Eve and had no grandparents at all.

Cain did not bring a gift to God like that, he did what he had been told to do while burning with resentment over it. Bit like someone going to church while wishing they were not there. Many times we give things that we don't want to be giving. We give because it's the law like taxes or we give because we have been taught it's the correct thing to do, but in our heart we don't want to be giving this money or time at all. We do it with resentment. This is why his 'gift' was rejected.

How do you know this? Can you give me some scriptures that support this?