Bruce Springsteen is anti-Trump but predicts Trump re-election win in 2020

[GoldenBoy89]

Let's correct that. They aren't lies at all.

Is Mexico paying for the wall? Has he improved our healthcare system? Did he know about the payments to his lady friends prior to the news coming out about it?

 

[USincognito]

I'm saying Trump exposed the bad leadership of the others.

If he were a good leader he would accomplished something instead of nothing. Whining about how he can't do anything because the mean old minority Democrats are more powerful than he is isn't even bad leadership. It's not leadership at all.

 

[cow451]

That wasn't a lie. Trump fully intended to do it but was blocked by Democrats because the Republicans in Congress couldn't get together on the same page to do it. President Trump gave Republicans the opportunity, and they squandered it away even though they had been promising to repeal it for years before Trump was even a candidate for president. He expected Republicans to do it because they had been saying they would do it if they ever got the opportunity. Trump called their bluff.

Republicans can’t come up with a plan and that’s the fault of the Democrats? That’s some alternative logic if ever I heard it.

 

[cow451]

We're beginning to see how the claim that Trump lies thousands of times, etc. is arrived at.

Yes. We evil people that repeat what he says are at fault, LOL.

 

[cow451]

They would say that about you.

Which proves my point. They are misguided.

 

[cow451]

I'm saying Trump exposed the bad leadership of the others.

Yes, he exposed the GOP as having no capacity to govern.

 

[cow451]

Basically it was the Republicans' fault.

Agreed.

 

[cow451]

Is Mexico paying for the wall? Has he improved our healthcare system? Did he know about the payments to his lady friends prior to the news coming out about it?

No, no and yes.

 

[KCfromNC]

The media often falsely accuses Trump of lying.

Citation needed.

 

[KCfromNC]

That speaks poorly of Republicans.

Or of large numbers of people fleeing the party after 2016.

 

[KCfromNC]

That wasn't a lie. Trump fully intended to do it but was blocked by Democrats because the Republicans in Congress couldn't get together on the same page to do it. President Trump gave Republicans the opportunity, and they squandered it away even though they had been promising to repeal it for years before Trump was even a candidate for president. He expected Republicans to do it because they had been saying they would do it if they ever got the opportunity. Trump called their bluff.

OK, so failure in some cases rather than liar. Weird he's so popular with certain voters given these job performance issues.

 

[KCfromNC]

Those are just the easy, most obvious ones. He's also lied numerous times in regards to the Stormy Daniels payments.

Also about meetings with the Russians. No big deal, though - he did tell the truth about firing the head of the FBI because of the investigation into them (and related legal issues).

 

[iluvatar5150]

That wasn't a lie. Trump fully intended to do it but was blocked by Democrats because the Republicans in Congress couldn't get together on the same page to do it. President Trump gave Republicans the opportunity, and they squandered it away even though they had been promising to repeal it for years before Trump was even a candidate for president. He expected Republicans to do it because they had been saying they would do it if they ever got the opportunity. Trump called their bluff.

Since becoming president, has Trump ever developed a plan for this new health care program? Or even an outline of one? If so, has he published it anywhere? If so, can you point be to where it's available?

He had some simplistic talking points as a candidate (for the record, I fully support points 3-5), but that page is now gone and I can't even find a proposal from him since he's become president.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Since becoming president, has Trump ever developed a plan for this new health care program? Or even an outline of one? If so, has he published it anywhere? If so, can you point be to where it's available?

He had some simplistic talking points as a candidate (for the record, I fully support points 3-5), but that page is now gone and I can't even find a proposal from him since he's become president.

Trump expected Republicans to have one ready since they had been talking about it for so long. But when Trump gave them the opportunity they failed to produce. So that wasn't Trump's fault. However, Republicans got their act together later on other issues such as with confirming Bret Kavanaugh to the SCOTUS. That was a promise Trump made that was kept.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Whichever candidate gets Oprah's endorsement is going to win the Dem's 2020 primary.

 

[dogs4thewin]

There's no way Trump will win re-election. He's too old now and he's going to have his ego so bruised after 4 years that he won't have the guts to try it again. Meanwhile the GOP will have gotten a chance to x-ray the base and figure out how deeply held some rather unseemly attitudes really are within their voter base. This will give them a clearer path to get the stuff they want but they'll put someone up who is capable of actually implementing some of the less savory platforms.

This is why Ryan and some of the other young GOP guns are jumping ship (IMO). Ryan will be back in a few years once the Trump debacle has kind of faded. In the interim the GOP will take the findings from the Trump experiment and put someone in who can actually work the system.

As for being too old as far as I know there is no max age for president.

 

[evoeth]

Bruce Springsteen is anti-Trump but predicts Trump re-election with current challengers.

See the following article:

"The Democratic Party would do well to heed the advice of The Boss.

"In two different interviews, rocker Bruce Springsteen highlighted a big challenge for Democrats looking to unseat Donald Trump in 2020: a lack of connection to a broad swath of the American electorate. The man who once opened for John Kerry on the 2004 presidential campaign trail predicted the president would win re-election in two years — at least based on the current field of challengers." More

Who could forget the well known pollster, Bruce Springsteen?

 

[GlabrousDory4]

As for being too old as far as I know there is no max age for president.

You are correct. But as we saw with Ronny Raygun who may have been starting to suffer early stages of Alzheimers while in office we probably dodged a bullet on that one.

I am not being "ageist" (considering I'm entering in my last decade of useful employability) but I also know that there is an upper limit after which point the person in charge is probably not fully suited to the task. Whether it's due to the normal ravages of age or an inherent failure to understand the operations of a modern changing world.

I have trouble with "soft keys" and "nested menus" meaning I can very easily lose my cool doing simple tasks on my phone and it only gets worse as I get older. Millennials confound me because it seems that they don't operate using common organizational schemes like "alphebetization" or even rational data arrangements...they can live with algorithmically ranked output to start their research. I can't understand that point of view. Imagine I am in charge of technology and data for the future.

What I'm saying is yes, age brings wisdom, but wisdom isn't always the ONLY thing one needs to do a complex and extremely taxing job like being President of the USA.

 

[cow451]

You are correct. But as we saw with Ronny Raygun who may have been starting to suffer early stages of Alzheimers while in office we probably dodged a bullet on that one.

I am not being "ageist" (considering I'm entering in my last decade of useful employability) but I also know that there is an upper limit after which point the person in charge is probably not fully suited to the task. Whether it's due to the normal ravages of age or an inherent failure to understand the operations of a modern changing world.

I have trouble with "soft keys" and "nested menus" meaning I can very easily lose my cool doing simple tasks on my phone and it only gets worse as I get older. Millennials confound me because it seems that they don't operate using common organizational schemes like "alphebetization" or even rational data arrangements...they can live with algorithmically ranked output to start their research. I can't understand that point of view. Imagine I am in charge of technology and data for the future.

What I'm saying is yes, age brings wisdom, but wisdom isn't always the ONLY thing one needs to do a complex and extremely taxing job like being President of the USA.

One reason I didn’t vote for either major candidate in 2016 was a rule I have about voting for people older than me.

 

[Belk]

Trump expected Republicans to have one ready since they had been talking about it for so long. But when Trump gave them the opportunity they failed to produce. So that wasn't Trump's fault. However, Republicans got their act together later on other issues such as with confirming Bret Kavanaugh to the SCOTUS. That was a promise Trump made that was kept.

Oh? Where did he say this?