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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Douggg, Mar 17, 2019.

  1. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    I don't know if you have been watching the brexit activity in parliament the last week, but it has been astounding to watch. The UK was under the Brexit plan scheduled to leave the EU by March 29, 2019. Brexit was voted on by public referendum two years ago, and the two years to exit deadline was to provide for an orderly exit.

    Well, there now is anything but orderly, and has become a really big mess. There is an extension, not well defined, in theory that parliament voted for, a few days ago - but it is contingent to being approved by the EU - which is highly questionable as PM May has to go to brussels to seek the extension, that they will approve, and if there are stipulations.

    What has this got to do with bible prophecy? Well, there is not anything in bible prophecy, directly imo. Except the fourth kingdom in Daniel 2 will be not so unified in the end times.

    Also, Italy is getting rebellious, because the way the EU has to approve all the member states budgets. Which means every countries fate is in the hands of some unelected bureacrates.

    Which leads me think that this discontent is going to push the EU to reorganize into the ten kings, leader, form of the government of Daniel 7's fourth kingdom.

     
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  2. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

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    The fourth kingdom of Daniel 7:23 is very clearly one that will encompass the whole world.
    The EU will just be one region, under a President, like the other 9 regions, all as already mapped out by those who promote this One World Government. Google; Ten World Regions; for the details.
    This OWG will be established soon after the great and terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath; the Sixth Seal, that will change the world as we know it and commence all the prophesies things leading up to the glorious Return of Jesus.
     
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  3. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

    It means the fourth kingdom shall be the dominant kingdom over the rest of the kingdoms of the earth. Hitler, for example, had plans to rule the world, but not by a one world government.


    No global army. And if there was who would it fight?

    In Daniel 11:36-45, the willful king fights against armies of other kings. So there cannot be a so-called one world government.
     
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  4. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

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    He will conquer the new nation of Beulah, in all of the holy Land. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:7
    Then just before Jesus Returns a huge army is raised to fight Jesus. Revelation 16:13-14
    There will be insurrections, just like we have against lawful governments today.
    Anyway, I do see those prophesies as having been fulfilled during the inter-Testament period.
     
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  5. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    The EU has said that any extension granted to the UK, they have to pay the EU a billion Euro's (maybe it's pounds) a month.
     
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  7. Anthony2019

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    Can't wait to the time we stop hearing all about "Brexit" in the news!
    Soft Brexit, Hard Brexit - sounds like the consistency of a bowel motion.
    Please we can all return back to normal!
     
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  8. Handmaid for Jesus

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    I have been watching it off and on. So far it looks like the public will have no say since Parliament rejected a second referendum.
    I hope there is not to much rebellion in Italy because my daughter is taking some students there for a field trip later this month.My grandson is one of the students.:pray: I covet your prayers.
     
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  10. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    I didn't mean to imply that there was any sort of violence going on in Italy - when I said getting rebellious. It was figuratively speaking in that they may also want an exit from the EU.
     
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  11. Douggg

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    If you are referring to the beast in Revelation 13, the world is a ways from that at present.

    Iran though is one of the nations listed in Ezekiel 38, as Persia, who will be part of the Gog/Magog attack. Gog/Magog, then the 7 years. The last 42 months of which are ruled by the beast person in Revelation 13.

    But before Gog/Magog, there must be the little horn, ten kings and that kingdom aforehand. Which imo Brexit is part of the pieces moving into place, leaving the EU in some state that the ten kings, leaders, kingdom will be formed.
     
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    You cant get much more backward than that.The beast wilbe standing in Jerusalem before you fiqure out what it is.
     
  13. LittleLambofJesus

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    You too?
     
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  14. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    From the text of Ezekiel 38-39, why do think I have it backwards?
     
  15. Handmaid for Jesus

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    Hey sis. You are right in that islam is very significant. I think the beast will arise from one of the Islamic states too. I have posted several times on this forum and called to attention the colors of the flags of most of the Islamic nations match the colors of the four horsemen in the Revelation.IMHO that is a glaring hint as to where the beast will come from. Iran imho will be destroyed in the Ezekiel 38 prophecy.
    Yes,Iran and others will think an evil thought and seek to invade Israel, but they will not be successful. Our Father will destroy them in the Golan Heights.
     
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  16. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

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    Whew! Thanks for this. I feel better. :)
     
  17. shilohsfoal

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    You wouldneed to study revelation abit more.
    The beast is cast into a lake of fire 1000 years before Gog invades Israel.Only those who are given the revelation of Jesus Christ undetstand this fact.

    Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
    Revelation 20:5 The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection.
    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
    Revelation 20:7 When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison,
    Revelation 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.
    Revelation 20:9 And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.
    Revelation 20:10 And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
     
  18. shilohsfoal

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    The beast will take control of Jerusalem and kill those who defend it.

    Revelation 11:3 And I will empower my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth."
    Revelation 11:4 These witnesses are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.
    Revelation 11:5 If anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouths and devours their enemies. In this way, anyone who wants to harm them must be killed.
    Revelation 11:6 These witnesses have power to shut the sky so that no rain will fall during the days of their prophecy, and power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish.
    Revelation 11:7 When the two witnesses have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will wage war with them, and will overpower and kill them.
    Revelation 11:8 Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city--figuratively called Sodom and Egypt--where their Lord was also crucified.

    The beast will take Jerusalem .They will ransack the houses and rape the women.

    Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into captivity, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.

    Dont mistaken the beast for Gog.
    The beast will capture Jerusalem.Gog will fail to do the same 1000 years afterward.
     
  19. LittleLambofJesus

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    That's good advice.
    How about a 207 part series [and still adding to it] on that book by a very spirit let Christian commenator

    Kingdom Bible Studies Table of Contents

    Kindgdom Bible Studies Revelation Series Part 1

    Part 1
    FROM THE CANDLESTICK TO THE THRONE

    The mark of the beast. Armageddon. The Four Horsemen. The false prophet. Babylon the great. Falling stars, stinging locusts, and giant hailstones. The seven last plagues. The bottomless pit. The lake of fire. These images of terror and catastrophe from the book of Revelation have greatly influenced the thinking of millions of Christians through the ages. Even the secular press uses images such as "Armageddon" and "four horsemen of the Apocalypse" to describe calamities in our world. Despite 1900 years of fascination with the book of Revelation, John’s letter to the seven Churches of Asia continues to be misunderstood. And badly misinterpreted!

    One misconception shared by some is that the Revelation has nothing of importance to say to us. It’s considered to be merely a bizarre piece of first-century writing with no relevance for today. Another wrong idea is that the Revelation is a code book describing a specific outline of history written in advance.
    Countless interpreters have tried to "decode" the book from a historical perspective to find all the major world events of the past 1900 years. Others interpret it more literally as a handbook for predicting the cataclysmic events that will bring the final wrath of God and the end of the world.
    The claims of Christian groups from the early church to the present — that the Revelation pinpoints the events, personalities, and time periods of "the end" — have all failed. This should be a caution to believers for using the book of Revelation as a predictive handbook.
    Other people’s interpretation of the book of Revelation is based on the "Pan Theory" — it’s all going to pan out in the end! Beloved brethren, the fact is, it’s not panning out the way the end-time prognosticators are projecting!

    Through the years I have ministered the Word in Bible studies, seminars, and church services of various types. When there has been a question and answer session, or when opportunity was granted for people to request teaching along a particular line, the most often requested subject has been — THE BOOK OF REVELATION!

    I have met people who were babes in Christ, carnal Christians whose lives were a mess, they had incredible problems and needs, including deliverance, and instead of prayer or counsel or messages that would help them overcome and grow up in Christ, they wanted me to teach them the book of Revelation! "Yeah, brother, that’s for me, lay it on me, I want the book of Revelation!
    ==================================
    Last part [so far]
    Part 207
    THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB
    (continued)
    The body of Christ is now multiplied by thousands, tens of thousands, yea untold millions, and it is not just one little girl that Christ receives but a corporate bride composed of a vast multitude of individual members. The point is just this: all that happens to the corporate body must be experienced by each member — it is first and foremost the experience of each member that finally constitutes the experience of the whole. By way of example, in school each year you have a graduating class. The “class” is a corporate body, but the corporate expression can only exist when each member of that body has completed the same courses with essentially the same grades. Each individual member must have had a like relationship with the school, the teacher, and the work required. Thus, it is the corresponding experience of each member that finally constitutes the experience of the whole. In just that way, if I do not know the Christ personally as my Bridegroom, it is impossible for me to be a part of that corporate body which is joined into experiential union with Him. Let us by all means remember that we are to be perfected in One; but let not this check the outflow of our individual affection to Him with whom, in some strange way, we are to be thus closely related. The thought of this most intimate relationship loses all its warmth, and even its reality, when we miss or eliminate the personal element in it. We teach the sinner to see in “God so loved the world,” that God loved ME. Surely we can’t be wrong in seeing in “Christ so loved the church,” that Christ loved ME!


    It is a precious experience when any child of God begins to understand personally something of the import of these prophetic words: “In that day thou shalt call me no more Baali (that is, my lord, master); but thou shalt call me Ishi (my husband)” (Hos. 2:16). The grammar of that prophecy is both singular and personal.
    And there are moments when His voice seems to sound in our ears, as though we heard Him say personally to each of us, “Hearken, O daughter, and consider…forget also thine own people, and thy father’s house; so shall the King have pleasure in thy beauty: for He is thy Lord God; and worship thou Him.” He is the Bridegroom of the corporate bride, but our love and relation to Him is to be as gloriously personal as though to each of us He had made this revelation of Himself, and to no other. Let it be the one work of our lives to fit ourselves for the enjoyment of this wondrously close relationship with Him..............
     
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  20. Handmaid for Jesus

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    Hey Elder Brother :) The scientists are predicting a micronova of our sun, and I can really see how that would devastate all of our technology and change our world dramatically. But I don't think it will be very soon as this Brexit thing has not been settled yet. I think also that the EU right now is not quite right as @Douggg has observed. Though we have clears prophecies of what will happen, we are in the dark about when.
     
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