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Breaking: Obama Admin Bugging AP Phones

Discussion in 'OBOB General Politics Forum' started by eastcoast_bsc, May 13, 2013.

  1. eastcoast_bsc

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    It is either all coming down or we are done. The news has broken on various sites.




    My Way News - Gov't obtains wide AP phone records in probe
     
  2. TheOtherHockeyMom

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    Either what's coming down or who is done? If it is proven that the Obama administration broke the law and he is impeached or resigns, how will it be any worse than when Nixon resigned?
     
  3. imind

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    are you intentionally misleading us? i see no mention of anyone 'bugging' phone lines. there were phone records subpoenaed and collected legally to find out who had leaked details of a CIA operation in Yemen, what CIA Director John Brennan called an "unauthorized and dangerous disclosure of classified information." (to quota your article).

    why do so many obama opponents seem to need to alter their thread titles to mislead?
     
  4. Sumwear

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    nothing to see here. just an extension of the patriot act is all.
     
  5. Fantine

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  6. Cosmic Charlie

    Cosmic Charlie Why did I come back ? It's like meth....

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    Just the goverment looking for terrorists.

    get used to it
     
  7. Sarcalogos Deus

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    What makes this scandalous isn't simply getting a subpoena for phone records, but how broad the records subpoenaed were. In a quoted statement from the AP in another article I read (on the Guardian I think) the AP said that those records could reveal a large number of their confidential sources.

    Add into this the recent IRS story, and renewed interest from whistle-blower's about Benghazi and it turns in to a PR nightmare. The President of transparency is viciously going after whistle-blowers, subpoenaing a media organization's phone records, and oversaw an IRS that intentionally targeted political groups on the other side of the political spectrum.

    Ultimately what will make this bad for Obama and the Democratic party is the betrayal of public trust this will be seen as.
     
  8. SharonL

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    Do I hear drums of impeachment? - Nah - his hands are clean - didn't have a thing to do with it - only heard about it last Friday when the rest of us heard about it - Sure
     
  9. Blackwater Babe

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    You know that accessing phone records isn't the same as bugging phones, right?
     
  10. Blackwater Babe

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    Accessing phone records is grounds for impeachment now? Why do you people insist on making all this song and dance about nothing issues like this, and yet never mention the things he's done that are actually impeachment worthy? You know, like extrajudicial killings and such?
     
  11. SharonL

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    This just adds another layer - it is all piling up.
     
  12. Blackwater Babe

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    How does this add anything to it?

    Intentionally killing people unilaterally without judicial oversight = impeachable

    Obtaining phone records = Not impeachable

    See how they';re not the same?
     
  13. Vendetta

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    Because people generally have no idea what's legal and illegal.
     
  14. Wolseley

    Wolseley Beaucoup-Diên-Cai-Dāu

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    Well, let's see.....

    We have Obamacare, in which the government is forcing the people to buy a specific product---nowhere is the Federal government given that power in the Constitution;

    We have Fast and Furious, where the Justice Department gives guns and money to Mexican drug pushers;

    We have the IRS trying to find a way to nail non-profit conservative groups that the "administration" doesn't happen to like;

    We have the highest levels of the "administration" sitting on their hands while an ambassador and three other Americans are murdered, then they lie about it to the people;

    And now we have the Justice Department trying to find ways to nail news organizations who broke the Benghazi story , probably to silence them.

    You Obots can think whatever you like, and you will anyway. As far as I'm concerned, Barak Obama is a treasonous criminal, and he and his Attorney General both ought to be behind bars. This "administration" is the most corrupt, power-hungry, and poisonously non-democratic pack of liars, thieves, opportunists and scumbags to ever head a government since the start of the Third Reich.

    If the country manages to survive Comrade Obama and his bunch of gangsters, it will be in spite of them, not because of them. Personally, I have my doubts. This bunch of idiots is going to send us into an economic nose-dive that will end up rivaling the deposition of Romulus Augustulus and the beginnings of the Dark Ages.
     
  15. Sarcalogos Deus

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    Look on the bright side of things:

    Obama has now practically assured that he will have no cooperation outside of his party in doing anything by continuing to blast conservatives about Benghazi when it turned out they were right all along about the administration doing some good ole fashioned butt covering. That of course doesn't even take into account the IRS fiasco and the Congressional hearings that will accompany it.

    The administration has now been caught in a lie (possibly two depending on how the IRS situation pans out) and has been hounding the media with subpoenas. Both of which will squander the public's trust and confidence in the administration.

    So now we get two and a half years of a lame duck president that's nothing more than a suit in a mansion AND Obama is setting up his party for failure in 2014/2016 unless they can successfully distance themselves from him.

    Basically this whole situation is turning into one big early Christmas gift for the Republican party.
     
  16. SharonL

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    I wish you were right, but you forget about his Executive Orders - he will still do much damage before this bunch of liers, treasonists and power hungry socialists gets out of office. All of them that took an oath to protect our Constitution should be behind bars. They have not reached the end of the Saul Alinsky manual yet. There is still some kick in us - but they are trying harder than ever.
     
  17. Sarcalogos Deus

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    I wouldn't be too worried about the executive orders. They're extremely limited in what they can do and can be quickly and easily rescinded by the next president.
     
  18. Cosmic Charlie

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    ***************************

    NAZI RULE

    Automatic, etc, etc,

    EVERYBODY DRINK

    (again - Two in one day, cool)

    ***********************************
     
  19. MoonlessNight

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    Between this and the abuse of the IRS (if Obama was involved in that... which seems likely considering that he greatly from it) I can't dismiss impeachment as a fringe opinion. This is Nixon 2.0.

    It probably won't happen for political reasons. But wow.
     
  20. eastcoast_bsc

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    Thanks for your intelligent analysis. Your a breath of fresh air from the usual sycophants. :)


    Seizing records of 22 AP reporters and using the IRS as ones personal muscle would make Richard Nixon blush. Holder has recused himself from the upcoming criminal investigation. The FBI is now investigating.

    We cannot have goon squads intimidating Jews, Conservatives and our free press. The IRS targeted Jewish groups, conservative groups and reporters.