BREAKING: internet oracles were right, new Motu Proprio undoes Summorum Pontificum

[Michie]

The SSPX office in Menzingen put out a statement, still only in French, about Traditionis custodes. HERE Here’s a taste…

From Summorum Pontificum to Traditionis custodes, or from the Nature Preserve to the Zoo

Continued below.
Seriously humorous SSPX statement on "Traditionis custodes" and a terrific imaginary curve ball

 

[Fr. Appletree]

Interesting because I've always believed that the Ordinariate Mass is what the original concept of a vernacular Mass was supposed to be.



I certainly understand how you feel, but it also seems like it could be an inevitability. If a Latin Mass in a given diocese disappears but there happens to be an Ordinariate parish, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if all the parishioners showed up on the Ordinariate's doorstep rather than roll over and go to a Novus Ordo.

True, I doubt those rules will change anytime soon—if ever—either, but unless new rules come out restricting who can attend an Ordinariate (say, Bishop Lopes comes out and says something or the Vatican does) then I don't think it'll change who shows up for Mass, they'll just register at a diocesan parish but attend an Ordinariate one. In theory.



Wait there are Ordinariate parishes that celebrate the Sarum Use?! I've been wondering that for ages, everything I'd read said it was either "extinct" or "defunct" ... if it's still in use anywhere that is freakin' amazing.

To your point out, that's my fear that despite being separate in so many ways, I feel like the motu proprio is just vague enough that it could be expanded to include them if the Vatican decides they're too much of an inconvenience re: trads.

Yes. And even the Eastern Orthodox also still use the Sarum Use in their Western Rite. I saw them do it in Florida once, I went out of historical curiosity.

Hauntingly beautiful.

 

[Fr. Appletree]

There are many rites of the Church and historically hundreds more. But they all aim at doing the same sets of things. They all orient the people to God in the proper way and create a space by which the grace of God is more condensed and able to fill his people.

The novus ordo doesn't, not consistently anyway.

 

[Fr. Appletree]

Sarum Vespers

 

[Fr. Appletree]

But seriously, one of these things isn't like the others. One of these things isn't a true liturgical expression of worship.

 

[zippy2006]

A nice piece from Cardinal Mueller:

Cardinal Mueller on the New TLM Restrictions - The Catholic Thing

 

[Fr. Appletree]

Yes, intentional is very well induced by which side receives the hammer and which side receives the mercy.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

I really enjoyed this article and pray the faithful take notice of the times we are in


'Get Interrupted', read more on Church Militant: Get Interrupted

 

[Michie]

Concerns raised with ‘Traditionis Custodes’ (Guardians of the Tradition) released July 16 include questions regarding the premises on which it is based and distress over its treatment of Catholics who have sought to remain faithful to the Church even as they have struggled with liturgical and other reforms.

US Bishops Weigh Next Steps on Traditional Latin Mass While Others Fear Further Division