Black teens fundraising for their high school football team held at gunpoint by white woman

[Nithavela]

It would have been better to avoid answering the door. In light of the unrest in our society and its ills, I wouldn’t permit my child to go door-to-door without a chaperone.

I also don't approve of sending children out to fund-raise for a football team.

But I don't understand school football in the USA anyway. As far as I thought, your football teams are the best-funded parts of your schools.

 

[bèlla]

But I don't understand school football in the USA anyway. As far as I thought, your football teams are the best-funded parts of your schools.

When I attended school parents were given the option of writing a check or selling items to raise funds. The same was true in my daughter’s case.

Most programs are. But public education is dependent on property taxes. Affluent neighborhoods and schools located in business directs receive a larger share.

I’m uncertain if the students attended a school within the district they were seeking donations in or were out of the area.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

It would have been better to avoid answering the door. In light of the unrest in our society and its ills, I wouldn’t permit my child to go door-to-door without a chaperone.

A lot of people wouldn't have open the door. If she was truly afraid . She would have never open the door. And would have called the cops in the house. I live in a black/ Mexican/ illegals neighbor hood. And I've never has issue. I know my aunt lives in a more white area , and complains about blacks, Mexicans and illegals. But they don't bug her. I think people like exaggerate these thing.

 

[bèlla]

="CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN, post: 74221833, member: 194384"I know my aunt lives in a more white area , and complains about blacks, Mexicans and illegals. But they don't bug her. I think people like exaggerate these thing.

I think most people want to live in safety and peace. What that looks like for each of us will vary. I chose convenience. The price is a measure of ignorance I would never encounter if I lived in a comparable neighborhood in the the suburbs.

Residing in a shopping district has its pros and cons. The neighborhood is safe and everything is within walking distance. But it isn’t a utopia.

 

[RDKirk]

Would not have made the news if it was the other way around.
M-Bob

A response with just as much validity: "Yes, it would."

 

[RDKirk]

Two things... well three or four.
Undoubtedly, this didn't happen in a Black neighborhood. Why were they in that neighborhood instead of where they play ball, and would have been better received? She would not have had the slightest idea of the existence of any "football" group..... it doesn't sound like a school associated activity. And, "door-to-door" soliciting?!?! Quite unheard of. At a grocery store exit perhaps, but never that way.

You didn't read the article, did you?

Wynne School District Superintendent Carl Easley said students participate in fundraising "every year," but the district is considering stopping door-to-door fundraisers.

"We're reviewing whether or not to let door-to-door continue," Easley told CBS News. Instead, the district encourages "going to businesses rather than individual homes, going to people you know and going with an adult."

 

[RDKirk]

I will repeat the obvious. Turn on your TV, and try to honestly report what you see fed to you nightly. It is largely Black violence. And anyone being honest would admit that.

When my son was five years old, he suddenly became terrified of walking with me the two blocks to his kindergarten. Absolutely terrified.

It took me a bit of careful discussion with him to figure out why.

This was back when CNN was an innovation, as the first 24/7 news channel. It was my habit to listen to it each morning while I got myself and my son ready (I was a single parent during those years).

What I didn't realize is that he was listening to it as well. Of course, news programs had changed a lot since my childhood. When I was his age, a news program was two guys sitting at desks reading from papers in black and white. By the 80s, CNN production was intense music and flashing graphics--not a lot different from children's programming.

So my son was listening to all the woes of the entire world crammed into one hour. But the entire world for him was the two blocks to his kindergarten. He thought all the calamities he heard on the news program were happening in that space.

An adult knows how to interpret the news and rightly determine whether the danger is actually in his own neighborhood or somewhere else, and accurately estimate his own level of risk where he actually is.

Otherwise, he's reacting like a five-year-old.

 

[Willie T]

When my son was five years old, he suddenly became terrified of walking with me the two blocks to his kindergarten. Absolutely terrified.

It took me a bit of careful discussion with him to figure out why.

This was back when CNN was an innovation, as the first 24/7 news channel. It was my habit to listen to it each morning while I got myself and my son ready (I was a single parent during those years).

What I didn't realize is that he was listening to it as well. Of course, news programs had changed a lot since my childhood. When I was his age, a news program was two guys sitting at desks reading from papers in black and white. By the 80s, CNN production was intense music and flashing graphics--not a lot different from children's programming.

So my son was listening to all the woes of the entire world crammed into one hour. But the entire world for him was the two blocks to his kindergarten. He thought all the calamities he heard on the news program were happening in that space.

An adult knows how to interpret the news and rightly determine whether the danger is actually in his own neighborhood or somewhere else, and accurately estimate his own level of risk where he actually is.

Otherwise, he's reacting like a five-year-old.

And, many adults react very similarly to a five year old... and CNN panders to that.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

And, many adults react very similarly to a five year old... and CNN panders to that.

They've got us hypnotized.
I best break away for a while.
M-Bob

 

[Go Braves]

I did exactly that as a building manager for 16 units.
People who do not live there need escorts.

Milwaukee, WI 53206
At this address
Google Maps

Well that makes a heck of lot more sense since it's a private building complex. Whole different matter from houses that are located on public streets that the public has got every right to use. It's not illegal or in any way wrong to knock on somebody's door during reasonable hours of the day unless they've got a sign up saying not to do that.

 

[rambot]

How is venturing onto someone's property deemed "existing?"

Her "free pass to shoot someone" seems to have failed to result in a shooting.

I think what needs to change is the proclivity to portray exaggerated or imaginary trouble.

You were talking about the white woman in this article right?

Or do you think she rationally and sensibly to a group of black boys soliciting at her door?

 

[grasping the after wind]

Every other neighbor in the story interacted with the children like normal human beings

Yet the one that was the outlier is held up as the typical by the OP

 

[variant]

Yet the one that was the outlier is held up as the typical by the OP

It does happen. Overt racist actions are rare for personal interactions though, and becoming rarer, especially if they lead to bad results.

Making the news is a good thing in this case, as again, we're pointing to this as unacceptable behavior, and pointing out better ways to handle ones fear.

 

[grasping the after wind]

It does happen. Overt racist actions are rare for personal interactions though, and becoming rarer, especially if they lead to bad results.

Making the news is a good thing in this case, as again, we're pointing to this as unacceptable behavior, and pointing out better ways to handle ones fear.

I suggest the women is not racist but afraid. Her fear led her to believe a stereotype. As an earlier poster pointed out, that stereotype is reinforced by the images one sees on the nightly news. Though others might reasonably disagree with my take, it is my opinion that a racist is one that believes their race is superior to others. Being afraid of people of other races, especially of young males of other races if one is an older woman, because one believes a stereotype does not rise to the level of racism IMO.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

I suggest the women is not racist but afraid.


Her fear led her to believe a stereotype. As an earlier poster pointed out, that stereotype is reinforced by the images one sees on the nightly news. Though others might reasonably disagree with my take, it is my opinion that a racist is one that believes their race is superior to others. Being afraid of people of other races, especially of young males of other races if one is an older woman, because one believes a stereotype does not rise to the level of racism IMO.

Exactly.
If they came to my door (any color)
I best be ready?
It's crazy out there nowdays.
Nothing new under the sun.
M-Bob

 

[variant]

I suggest the women is not racist but afraid. Her fear led her to believe a stereotype. As an earlier poster pointed out, that stereotype is reinforced by the images one sees on the nightly news. Though others might reasonably disagree with my take, it is my opinion that a racist is one that believes their race is superior to others. Being afraid of people of other races, especially of young males of other races if one is an older woman, because one believes a stereotype does not rise to the level of racism IMO.

Sure it does, if the fear has to do with the race of the people involved. Buying into negative stereotypes about people and acting on them in an irrational manner is pretty obvious racism.

She's not joining the KKK to try to enshrine white superiority here no, just acting on a bias that paints people of different races as dangerous.

 

[Willie T]

Sure it does, if the fear has to do with the race of the people involved. Buying into negative stereotypes about people and acting on them in an irrational manner is pretty obvious racism.

She's not joining the KKK to try to enshrine white superiority here no, just acting on a bias that paints people of different races as dangerous.

It's not just a bias. It is a repeated and reinforced inculcation of regimented and intentionally directed media propaganda.

 

[variant]

It's not just a bias. It is a repeated and reinforced inculcation of regimented and intentionally directed media propaganda.

I'm not really on board with the media making people racists. The idea that it is directed or propaganda.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Sure it does, if the fear has to do with the race of the people involved. Buying into negative stereotypes about people and acting on them in an irrational manner is pretty obvious racism.

She's not joining the KKK to try to enshrine white superiority here no, just acting on a bias that paints people of different races as dangerous.

I guess we will have to disagree on the definition of racism. I find racism, as I defined it, to be heinous and repugnant and engaged in by a very small segment of the populace. I find your definition-buying into stereotypes and acting in an irrational manner- something I would have called being biased or prejudiced or ignorant depending upon the circumstance. IMO it makes racism seem a much less terrible thing than it has always been considered to be in the past and engaged in by almost everyone of every race at one tiome or another. IMO a racist is a person that believes him/herself superior to others by virtue of that person's racial background and acts accordingly not irrationally so but purposefully so. A woman cowering in fear unable to leave her house because she has bought into a stereotype is not the equivalent of the boss that passes over a better qualified person of a different race to promote one of less qualifications of his/her own race. IMO one is a racist while the other is just mislead.

 

[Willie T]

I'm not really on board with the media making people racists. The idea that it is directed or propaganda.

See the definitions I just posted on the "Trump racial" thread.
Being prejudiced is not being a racist.
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