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Black teens fundraising for their high school football team held at gunpoint by white woman

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SummerMadness, Aug 18, 2019.

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  1. SummerMadness

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    Four black teens were fundraising for their high school football team. A white woman held them at gunpoint.
    Yet again, black people are told they must justify their existence or risk being shot. And despite her actions, the police department is treating someone that clearly committed a crime with leniency. I wonder how many people being booked get to leave without their mugshot being taken due to a "medical emergency." What's worse is the new get out of jail free claim is to say you "feared for your safety," which gives you a free pass to shoot someone. These laws need to change.
     
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  2. SkyWriting

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    I don't own a gun, but I treat white (or green) youths just the same in my neighborhood. I do leave my front door with my dog following youth in the neighborhood. Particularly having caught them inside my car, and with 8 other incidents the same night in the neighborhood. And a car stolen next door from the garage. I am especially watchful of my neighbors kids in the company of any other kids not familiar. I've lost a stereo system as a result of outsiders visiting my own kids.

    I don't have time to estimate white vs black punks. Any kid in my neighborhood gets analysis as to their motives. If they belong on my block or where they are headed or where they are going, and what are they looking at as they walk. The only kid I've seen with a gun in their hand was around 13, so no one is exempt.
     
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  3. D.A. Wright

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    How is venturing onto someone's property deemed "existing?"

    Her "free pass to shoot someone" seems to have failed to result in a shooting.

    I think what needs to change is the proclivity to portray exaggerated or imaginary trouble.
     
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  4. Nithavela

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    I think that walking up to a door with the intention of knocking and talking about legitimate buisness is covered under normal things every human should be able to do without having a gun pointed at him.
     
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  5. D.A. Wright

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    Glad you're thinking, but your thought doesn't seem to answer the direct question.
     
  6. sfs

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    You're right -- they did not get into trouble for merely existing while black. They got into trouble for existing and carrying on normal human activities while black. Clearly an important distinction to make.
     
  7. Nithavela

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    Well.. I guess it depends on how you define existing. My definition includes other things than just breathing and having a pulse. Like, for example, going out of the door. Working your job. Talking to other people. Standing in public spaces.

    But maybe your definition of existing only applies to people that are cowering in a dark cave.
     
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  8. Mountainmanbob

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    Would not have made the news if it was the other way around.
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  9. SkyWriting

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    Looking further for the 4 teens, this comes up:
    - (CNN) Four suspects have been charged in connection with the attack on a special-needs teen that was streamed on Facebook Live.

    - (CNN)A young woman who broadcast the beating and racial taunting of a man on Facebook Live has been arrested with three others in connection with the gruesome attack, Chicago police said Wednesday.
     
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  10. Nithavela

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    Now this is just desperate.
     
  11. Willie T

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    Two things... well three or four.
    Undoubtedly, this didn't happen in a Black neighborhood. Why were they in that neighborhood instead of where they play ball, and would have been better received? She would not have had the slightest idea of the existence of any "football" group..... it doesn't sound like a school associated activity. And, "door-to-door" soliciting?!?! Quite unheard of. At a grocery store exit perhaps, but never that way.


    There had been prior home invasions, and she seems to have been alone and in poor health when 4 "football players" arrived at her door.

    Why wasn't at least one adult with them? A coach or parent.
    The gun was a bit of an overreaction for a healthy young man, but not necessarily for woman alone, confronted by four teens.

    Remember, the liberal media "helps" (HURTS) the generally perceived image of Black people everyday by weekly broadcasting yet another video of Blacks rioting and looting or beating up on some lone white...… that is when they are not throwing things at cops.


    Frankly, that is deliberately designed to give women like her an absolute anticipation of what to expect if a group of Black teens ring their doorbell.

    If you don't want Whites to believe what they see broadcast almost every week on TV, then stop doing it. That is really all many whites ever see of Blacks, except of maybe at the grocery store. The media is creating a very vivid image that this is everyday life in the Black Community.

    Is it fair? Perhaps not. But you guys do it, and it gets videoed.... sometimes by you, yourselves, and sent out for people like her to see on a very regular basis. So, what kind of a reaction should four teens expect when they approach people on their doorsteps in a White neighborhood?


    The reaction is being programmed into people by the nightly news videos.
     
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    Door to door soliciting is quite common for school activities where I live and has been for the last 30 years.

    One officer recognized them immediately because he does work with the school so they were obviously canvasing for the high school attached to the neighborhood.


    That's the racism. Four black teenagers are immediately seen as a threat in a situation where any white person could reasonably expect to be treated differently.

    Most of the time I wait for people to become more explicitly threatening before I pull a gun on them and holding them for the police.

    Every other neighbor in the story interacted with the children like normal human beings and didn't make the news. And, if she was so scared, why did she open the door at all? It's my go to for avoiding situations I don't trust with people who come to my door.
     
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  13. SkyWriting

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    Yes, crimes are almost exclusively by male youth.
    Lets focus on the problem, not the crime.
    These facts are what one considers when answering a knock on your front door.

    - rapists: 99 in 100 are male, 6 in 10 are white, and the average age is the early thirties.
    - Burglars are most likely to be males under the age of 25
    - Among 10 to 24 year-olds, homicide is the leading
    cause of death for African Americans; the second
    leading cause of death for Hispanics; and the third
    leading cause of death American Indians and Alaska
    Natives.
    - Homicide rates in 2010 among non-Hispanic, African-
    American males 10-24 years of age (51.5 per 100,000)
    exceeded those of Hispanic males (13.5 per 100,000)
    and non-Hispanic, White males in the same age group
    (2.9 per 100,000)
    - Among homicide victims 10 to 24 years old in 2010,
    86% (4,171) were male and 14% (657) were female
     
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    We don’t have that kind of solicitation in my neighborhood. Fundraising efforts are handled by the school with parental involvement. They also procure donations from businesses.
     
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  15. Willie T

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    I will repeat the obvious. Turn on your TV, and try to honestly report what you see fed to you nightly. It is largely Black violence. And anyone being honest would admit that.
     
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    The TV is not responsible for most peoples magic ability to not pull a gun on every group of black teenagers selling stuff for school (this is actually rare enough that it makes the news). So, it's also not responsible for others who act more like racists.
     
  17. Willie T

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    I think I said, "honestly." Yes, the liberal news media is almost exclusively responsible for propagating Al and Jessie's race dividing propoganda. It sells! And it makes the "leaders" money.
     
  18. Nithavela

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    I like how you immediately went for "they should have stayed in their part of the town".
     
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    You mean they dare report on the poor woman who pulled a gun on some kids selling stuff for school exposing her racism?

    It's so bad that you have to rush online to apologize for her racist actions as only natural given the state of the media she watched?

    Yeah, sounds like we have a real "liberal media" problem here.
     
  20. SkyWriting

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    I avoid the news if possible.

    PRIVILEGE LICENSE & CONTRACTOR LICENSE

    In order to operate any business in the City of Wynne or operate as a Contractor you must have a current license. The Wynne Police Department is the designated collector for the Privilege & Operator Licenses.

    The Police Department is located at 206 South Falls. Office hours are Monday through Friday from 8:00 AM until 4:30 PM. The phone number is 238-8718 and the fax number is 238-4055.

    You may refer to Title IV, Chapter 4.24 of the Municipal Code for additional information regarding Privilege License and City Ordinance n. 426 for information regarding Contractor License.

    There is also an application process for Itinerant Vendors wishing to do Door-to-Door Sales. This is detailed in Ordinance n. 562.

    https://www.cityofwynne.com/permits-licenses-and-forms
     
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