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Black National Anthem

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Humble_Disciple, Jul 15, 2021.

  1. Humble_Disciple

    Humble_Disciple Well-Known Member

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    The "black national anthem" is obviously a Christian hymn. Is the "woke" left removing any references to God when they promote it? Aren't these the same people who wanted "under God" removed from the pledge?

    It's because I care about black heritage, especially the heritage of black Christians, that I don't want the left appropriating the song.

    Black Americans: Most Religious Ethnic Group
     
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  2. hislegacy

    hislegacy Respect to those who we lost

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    What black nation are they signing to? America is a melting pot of nations into one.

    E pluribus unum
    E pluribus unum – Latin for "Out of many, one" – is a traditional motto of the United States, appearing on the Great Seal

    My parents and grand parents didn't immigrate (Legally) to a black America, or a white America - they came to America.

    When will we stop focusing on what divides and start on what brings us together?

    That is the strength of this great nation.
     
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  3. Fantine

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    A retired teacher died last week. It was played at her funeral. Beautiful.

    She was white. Beautiful for all people.
     
  4. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Where did this information come from, please?
     
  5. Humble_Disciple

    Humble_Disciple Well-Known Member

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    Which information specifically?
     
  6. hislegacy

    hislegacy Respect to those who we lost

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    Disagree, just because they have God mentioned in the song does not make it a Christian song. Reading of the authors bio there is nothing mentioned of his faith.

    That point is in error.
     
  7. Humble_Disciple

    Humble_Disciple Well-Known Member

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    The song is like a hundred years old. Do you know the full history behind it? It makes references to the Bible.
     
  8. hislegacy

    hislegacy Respect to those who we lost

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    James Weldon Johnson is well documented and beyond his father being a pastor, I can find no references to him being a religious person. He has a bevy of poetic writings.

    The closest is "God's Trombones - Seven Negro Sermons in verse.

    I remember hearing in my boyhood sermons that were current, sermons that passed with only slight modifications from preacher to preacher and from locality to locality. Such sermons were: "The Valley of Dry Bones," which was based on the vision of the prophet in the 37th chapter of Ezekiel; the "Train Sermon," in which both God and the devil were pictured as running trains, one loaded with saints, that pulled up in heaven, and the other with sinners, that dumped its load in hell; the "Heavenly March," which gave in detail the journey of the faithful from earth, on up through the pearly gates to the great white throne. Then there was a stereotyped sermon which had no definite subject, and which was quite generally preached; it began with the Creation, went on to the fall of man, rambled through the trials and tribulations of the Hebrew Children, came down to the redemption by Christ, and ended with the Judgment Day and a warning and an exhortation to sinners.
    He goes on to write about the faith of others - never his own.

    We have a difference of opinion.

    If this is a Christian Hymn then it is being misused. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is a call to reconciliation and being one in Christ. Instead it is used to symbolize a divide within this nation. There is no Black National Anthem, because there is no Black Nation - there is ONE nation under God.
     
  9. Hank77

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    The information that I quoted in my post to you.
     
  10. RDKirk

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    No, it's not the same people. Some of you people work extra hours to find something about black people to kvetch about.

    Next dumb issue....
     
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  11. Humble_Disciple

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    It's because I care about black heritage, especially the heritage of black Christians, that I don't want the left appropriating the song.

    Black Americans: Most Religious Ethnic Group
     
  12. Aldebaran

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    I'm not sure what the point of having a "black national anthem" is unless the people calling it that want to say that this isn't their country or they aren't citizens of it. They said they didn't want segregation, but this is just another example of segregating themselves. Just try to imagine an Olympic Games where we play our black national anthem and our white national anthem separately due to the black athletes wanting their own anthem. The rest of the world would be understandably be confused by the message it would send--that blacks fought to end segregation, and once they had succeeded, they proceed to demand even more segregation.
     
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  13. iarwain

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    I'm not at all sure that it is black people who came up with this idea of pushing the "black national anthem", most notably by playing it at NFL games.
     
  14. RDKirk

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    We've been singing that song for a century. It's been unofficially called the black national anthem since before white people let us into venues that they sang the Star Spangled Banner.

    Y'all are just looking for stuff to be upset about black people.

    Here is the 1942 version.

    Lift Every Voice And Sing - James Weldon Johnson [1942] - YouTube
     
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  15. Humble_Disciple

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  16. hislegacy

    hislegacy Respect to those who we lost

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    Yes the song has been sung for over 100 years.

    When did it become the Black National anthem?

    Also, what Black nation is it the anthem of? Suddenly the US is so divided that it has become two nations?

    How many more nations will there be?

    As for me and many others, we are one nation. I fought for one nation, I pay taxes for one nation. I pledge my loyalty to one nation. When will we follow Martin Luther King Jrs legacy and come together as one?

    There is zero, no one alive today who experienced slavery and I would venture to guess not many who were around in the 60’s civil rights movements.

    if you are going to involve Christianity into your cause, then you should bring Christ and His ways into it. Otherwise it is hypocrisy to claim it.

    Do good to those who despitefully use you. Yeah, I remember reading that somewhere and I certainly saw it in Dr King, who changed the face of this nation.
     
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  17. RDKirk

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    Nowhere is it your business.
     
  18. hislegacy

    hislegacy Respect to those who we lost

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    It is 100% his right to express his views and opinions though.
     
  19. hedrick

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    Only if the government requires people to sing it.
     
  20. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    If there's a national anthem for blacks and a national anthem for whites, does there need to be a national anthem for Hispanics as well? What about Asians? Does this then imply with each different ethnicity getting their own national anthem that there should be individual nations to correspond to each ethnicity?

    Or is the idea to replace the current USA national anthem with the black national anthem?
     
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