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Biometric ID card = Mark?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Ephesian, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. Ephesian

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    Senetors Chuck Schumer (D) and Lindsey Graham (R) are currently working on a comprehensive immigration reform bill which would require all Americans to have a biometric ID card. A national ID card. This card can be embedded with information such as a finger print or, the pattern of your veins on the back of your hand. Is this the precurser to the mark? It could be a real possibility that we will be unable to buy or sell without this card. What are your thoughts?
     
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  2. gracechick

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    [​IMG]Prophecy Sign: Christ in Revelation 13:16-17 warns us the Antichrist will control what you buy or sell. During the the second half of the the tribulation no one will be able to take part in the economy unless they take the mark of the Antichrist which the scripture tells us will be placed in the right hand or forehead. If you read my previous posts you would have learned how each nation is making it manitory that their citizens have a national ID. These national ID systems are one of the steps leading up to a one world ID system that will be used by the Antichrist. “Lawmakers working to craft a new comprehensive immigration bill have settled on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would eventually be required to obtain. Under the potentially controversial plan still taking shape in the Senate, all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker. The ID card plan is one of several steps advocates of an immigration overhaul are taking to address concerns that have defeated similar bills in the past.” This report also stated, “The biggest objections to the biometric cards may come from privacy advocates, who fear they would become de facto national ID cards that enable the government to track citizens. Tracking citizens is what the Antichrist’s system is going to do so don’t get shocked when you see these types of programs. All they are, are footsteps to the system Jesus talked to us about in chapter 13 of the Revelation. Don’t forget, the U.S. Government is also working on its national drivers license that is going to also be mandatory.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703954904575110124037066854.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_PoliticsNCampaign_3 Frank DiMora:

    Thought this interesting.
     
  3. laconicstudent

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    Actually, I don't think it will happen just because frankly, America simply cannot afford the program at the moment. Mark of the Beast aside, I will be irritated if my legislators allow another unnecessary mass spending program through.

    I'm thinking that some legislator will jump on it and kill it just to earn points with his electorate in showing how diligent he (or she) is in cutting spending.
     
  4. B1inHim

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    there are a lot of versions out there, the best one is already being used and will be implemented once we are not here any longer...

    we will not have to wait and see... thank God for that... amen

    Brother Jerry
     
  5. B1inHim

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    THE USA will not be here for the last half of the GT
     
  6. zeke37

    zeke37 IMO...

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    the mark is what you believe in your mind, who you worship
    and
    what you do in the kingdom...

    as it was with God's mark explained much the same way, in Ex13, Deut6,11 to name but a few....

    worshiping the false Christ or willingly living in his system, is having his mark.


    not any form of tech.
     
  7. Tyndale

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    Biometric ID card = Mark?

    What foolishness:eek::doh:, so how will a biometric ID card make you worship the beast instead of Christ?

    The Mark in the forehead and the hand means that the beast will cause you to worship a false religion (forehead) and even cause you to carry out physical atrocities in his name (hand)
     
  8. gracechick

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    Meh, The card is most likely one of the last steps towards the mark. Over the past decade there have been many efforts to get us used to their ability to track us. Even children in grade an elementary school did everything from checking out books to buying their lunches through iris and hand scans.
     
  9. B1inHim

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    ACCLAMATION is a key factor... Europe is doing it... but like I said, the USA will not be part of the NWO of the rice implant for the global economy and peace. We will be a nation of the past. Babylon will be taking her last bow purty soon...

    Love y'all
    brother Jerry
     
  10. visionary

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    The beast wants a way to identify those who are willing to compromise their faith in God in order to stay in a system of "buying and selling". What makes the "mark" unique is that somewhere in the implementation of this marking system is a religious worship factor that will appease a massive group of one certain branch thus force its dictates on the rest. Any force dictating faith especially "worship" is a beastly system. When it is part of the new world order in which the whole world must accept, then the means to force it through via marking system like a biometric system now becomes a tool for evil.

    Is this the beginning of putting the system in place for the "marking" .. we will see. Remember it is only when the "marking" system is attached to "worship" does it become evil.
     
  11. gracechick

    gracechick Senior Veteran

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    I do agree that America is being crushed and breathing her last. Once they have the most powerful " somewhat free" country fully in their clutches most of the world will be feeling the fear they are working hard to create which =s desire for the perfect world leader.
    Can't wait for the rapture as I'm sure the experience is a bit like the wonderful dream I was given last year.
     
  12. B1inHim

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    The mark is a literal, physical manipulation of either the right hand or the forehead... They must know who is marked, in order to count the ones who survived the "sudden destruction" that will befall the USA soon.
    It is the chip and it will be designated when we are no longer here to and/or able to DEBATE it...
    lol, thanks
    love,
    brother Jerry
     
  13. son_flower

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    The mark is both spiritual and literal. Yes in your mind if you betray God and worship another and yes the evil deeds of your hands(works). There is the falling away.

    It is also a means of conformity to the merchant system of buying and selling, for without it, you will be told that you can't do either one (which will be a lie). Unless you owe a note of some kind to a bank, then you have participated in usury anyway and better get out from under it now while you can or what you don't own outright will be theirs.
    The bible sais the tribulation is for trying the patience and faith of the saints, not for the unbelievers who could care less anyway. They not only gladly accept it, they are part of it. Overcomers who do not take this mark will be granted reign for a thousand years.

    Revelation 14
    11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    15Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
     
  14. zeke37

    zeke37 IMO...

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    nope

    the mark, explained the same way,
    was not a literal mark in Ex13, Deut6, Deut11 so why would it be literal now?

    the shame is that you do not even think you will be here for the mark of the beast...shame indeed...

    that is the crux of my problem with pre and mid tribbers....

    "don't worry, we'll be gone...."
     
  15. zeke37

    zeke37 IMO...

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    Hi....

    if there was only one currency world wide,
    then all would have to use it in order to buy bread etc...
    that is...
    unless you don't want to take the mark

    and then you'd have to barter/store house food etc...

    but since the time has been shortened for the elect's sake,
    it is not a long drawn out 7 years or 3.5 years....
    it is IMHO 5 months (Rev9), a length of time that any of us can prepare for...spagettiooooos last longer than that, as does my baby's formula

    just don't use a NWO currency(live in his system=hand)....and don't worship the false Christ(mind)...
    then ya won't have his mark

    but thinking that you won't even be here for his mark, as some do,
    is a sure way to get marked.
     
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