VirOptimus
A nihilist who cares.
You are trying to debate science with magic as an argument. Im not implying it, Im stating it.
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Many of the Early Christians were were devout Jewish Hebrews and Oh Yes the did Keep All of the Law .. Lol
In fact they kept the Sabbath and all of the Holdays and festivals spoken of in Genisis .
Really? Paul was a Pharisee.. he even wanted to keep Pentecost... Christ even observed the Jewish holidays & Sabbaths
Genesis 1:14
Then God said, "Let there be lights in the sky to separate the day from the night. They will be signs and will mark religious festivals, days, and years
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Introduction/introduction.html
We once Thought the Earth was Flat , Just like if The Lord extends his coming we might find that Evoulution was Barbaric science .
Populations are made up of individuals.
Nope. Populations are made up of individuals. Changes can't happen to populations before they happen on individuals.
Who said anything about an ape to give birth to a human. I'm referring to what makes us human the begin with.
Not only Evolution does not have a goal in mind but it can't reason either.
Evolution is man's attempt to explain himself away. It's idolatry. Man builds something from his imagination then claims this is how he got here. "science".
Speaking of flat earthism, they tend to use the same arguments that other YECs use. They interpret certain portions of Scripture literally, such as that the earth is a circle, and God creating the dome of the firmament.
-CryptoLutheran
Indeed. The trackrecord of religion trying to fight science isnt exactly stellar.
If more bothered to take St. Augustine's cautionary words seriously I'd like to think that'd happen significantly less, but most of the Christians who fight against science tend to be blissfully ignorant of the theologians and teachers of Christianity of the past two millennia, even a giant like Augustine.
-CryptoLutheran
PLENTY OF THEORIES have been Superseded..
BiologyEdit
ChemistryEdit
- Spontaneous generation - is a principle regarding the spontaneous generation of complex life from inanimate matter, which held that this process was a commonplace and everyday occurrence, as distinguished from univocal generation, or reproduction from parent(s). Falsified by an elegant experiment by Louis Pasteur—where apparently spontaneous generation of microorganisms occurred, it did not happen on repeating the process without access to unfiltered air; on then opening the apparatus to the atmosphere, bacterial growth started.
- Transmutation of species, Lamarckism,inheritance of acquired characteristics - first theories of evolution. Not supported by experiment, and rendered obsolete byDarwinian evolution, Mendelian genetics andepigenetics (although some elements of Lamarckian evolution are coming back in the area of epigenetics).
- Mendelian genetics, classical genetics,Boveri–Sutton chromosome theory - first genetical theories. Not invalidated as such, but subsumed into molecular genetics.
- Maternal impression – the theory that the mother's thoughts created birth defects. No experimental support (a notion rather than a theory), and rendered obsolete by genetic theory (see also fetal origins of adult disease,genomic imprinting)
- Miasma theory of disease – the theory that diseases are caused by "bad air". No experimental support, and rendered obsolete by the germ theory of disease.
- Preformationism – the theory that all organisms have existed since the beginning of life, and that gametes contain a miniature but complete preformed individual, in the case of humans, a homunculus. No support whenmicroscopy became available. Rendered obsolete by cytology, discovery of DNA, andatomic theory.
- Recapitulation theory – the theory that "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny". SeeBaer's laws of embryology.
- Telegony – the theory that an offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of its mother's as well as its actual parents, often associated with racism.
- Vitalism – the theory that living things are alive because of some "vital force" independent of nonliving matter, as opposed to because of some appropriate assembly of nonliving matter. It was gradually discredited by the rise of organic chemistry, biochemistry, and molecular biology, fields that failed to discover any "vital force". Friedrich Wöhler's synthesis of urea from ammonium cyanate was only one step in a long road, not a great refutation.
- Out of Asia theory of human origin – The majority view is of a recent African origin of modern humans, although a multiregional origin of modern humans hypothesis has much support (which incorporates past evidence of Asian origins)
PhysicsEdit
- Caloric theory - the theory that a self-repelling fluid called "caloric" was the substance of heat. Rendered obsolete by themechanical theory of heat.
- Classical elements - All matter was once thought to be composed of various combinations of classical elements (most famously air, earth, fire, and water). This was finally refuted by Antoine Lavoisier's publication of Elements of Chemistry, which contained the first modern list of chemical elements, in 1789.
- Phlogiston theory – The theory that combustible goods contain a substance called "phlogiston" which entered air upon combustion. Replaced by Lavoisier's work on oxidation
- Point 2 of Dalton's Atomic Theory was obsoleted by discovery of isotopes, and point 3 by discovery of subatomic particles andnuclear reactions.
- Vitalism - See section on biology.
- Emission theory of vision – discredited byIbn al-Haytham (Alhacen)
- Aristotelian physics – superseded byNewtonian physics
- Ptolemy's law of refraction, replaced bySnell's law
- Luminiferous aether – failed to be detected by the sufficiently sensitive Michelson-Morley experiment, made obsolete by Einstein's work.
- Caloric theory – Lavoisier's successor to phlogiston, discredited by Rumford's andJoule's work
- Contact tension – a theory on the source of electricity
- Vis viva – Gottfried Leibniz's elementary and limited early formulation of the principle of conservation of energy
- "Purely electrostatic" theories of thegeneration of voltage differences.
- Emitter theory – another now-obsolete theory of light propagation.
- Balance of nature – superseded bycatastrophe theory and chaos theory
- Progression of atomic theory
- Democritus, the originator of atomic theory, held that everything is composed of atoms, which are indestructible
- John Dalton's model of the atom, which held that atoms are indivisible and indestructible (superseded by nuclear physics) and that all atoms of a given element are identical in mass (superseded by discovery of atomic isotopes).[1]
- Plum pudding model of the atom—assuming the protons and electrons were mixed together in a single mass
- Rutherford model of the atom with an impenetrable nucleus orbited by electrons
- Bohr model with quantized orbits
- Electron cloud model following the development of quantum mechanics in 1925 and the eventual atomic orbitalmodels derived from the quantum mechanical solution to the hydrogen atom
Astronomy and cosmologyEdit
- All of classical physics, includingNewtonian physics, superseded by relativistic physics and quantum physics. However, classical physics is a limiting case of the latter two theories, and it is often a very good approximation.
Geography and climateEdit
- Ptolemaic system – replaced by Nicolaus Copernicus' Heliocentric model.
- Geocentric universe – made obsolete by Copernicus
- Heliocentric universe – made obsolete by discovery of the structure of the Milky Way. Heliocentrism only applies to the Solar System, and only approximately, since the Sun's center is not at the Solar System'scenter of mass.
- Copernican system – made obsolete byJohannes Kepler and Isaac Newton
- Newtonian gravity – superseded by general relativity, to which it is an excellent approximation unless typical speeds approach that of light in a vacuum (c). The anomalous perihelion precession of Mercurywas the first observational evidence that Newtonian gravity was not totally accurate.
- Luminiferous aether theory
- Steady State Theory, a model developed byHermann Bondi, Thomas Gold, and Fred Hoylewhereby the expanding universe was in asteady state, and had no beginning. It was a competitor of the Big Bang model until evidence supporting the Big Bang and falsifying the steady state was found.
GeologyEdit
- Flat Earth theory. On length scales much smaller than the radius of the Earth, a flat map projection gives a quite accurate and practically useful approximation to true distances and sizes, but departures from flatness become increasingly significant over larger distances.
- Terra Australis
- Hollow Earth theory
- The Open Polar Sea, an ice-free sea once supposed to surround the North Pole
- Rain follows the plow – the theory that human settlement increases rainfall in arid regions (only true to the extent that crop fields evapotranspirate more than barren wilderness)
- Island of California – the theory thatCalifornia was not part of mainland North America but rather a large island
- Abiogenic petroleum origin
- Catastrophism was largely replaced byuniformitarianism
- Flood geology replaced by modern geologyand stratigraphy
- Neptunism replaced by plutonism
- The following were superseded by plate tectonics:
- Expanding Earth theory (superseded bysubduction)
- Geosyncline theory
- The theory of continental drift was incorporated into and improved upon by plate tectonics
So you can cut and paste. Most impressive, now, in your own words, what is a scientific theory?
Lol turn to Roman Catholicism or Die?Indeed. Science refines itself as it finds new information. What that means is that as we become more knowledgeable our precision increases and theories are refined for greater and greater accuracy. As such my statement that for TOE to be proven totally wrong would require an upheaval in how we view everything is correct.
Now, shall we compare your list to the list of Scientists put to death because they had the audacity to be correct despite it contradicting religious dogma?
Lol turn to Roman Catholicism or Die?
How about Puritanism ... You are a witch for using herbs ...and my crop failed .
Lol don't go there with me !
Indeed. Even I, an atheist see the ignorance in many religious debates. And surely, faith is supposed to help answering otherwordly questions, not questions about physical reality?
A explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is gathered through sientific method and tested or observed when it can be and generally accepted somewhat as being true. Unless it is surpassed or ( Proven False )
Scientific Law
You mentioned flat earth....How in the world did you get that?
So you can cut and paste. Most impressive, now, in your own words, what is a scientific theory?
A explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is gathered through sientific method and tested or observed when it can be and generally accepted somewhat as being true. Unless it is surpassed or ( Proven False )
Scientific Law on the other hand is a statement of fact meant to explain, in concise terms, an action or set of actions
Scientific laws being similar to math equations , and really don't need external proofs , they are accepted at face value based upon the fact that they have Always been seen to be true. , true, universal, and absolute.
You saying that I practice magic suggests that I am a witch ..which further suggests that I am Not A Christian .Well, if you allow magic then all bets are off. Then we could all be created last thursday with all of our memories intact and all proof poofed away. With magic everything is possible and nothing is certain.
But the facts suggest no such thing. We clearly can deduct no flood, the theory of evolution is incredibly well supported and common descent is in fact factual.
Using magic to try to argue against this is quite frankly silly. It does your faith no good.
Magic = DivinationYou are trying to debate science with magic as an argument. Im not implying it, Im stating it.
You would have just quoted it back to me Lol we lean it in life sciencesApparently not. The above "in her own words" quote is nearly verbatim from this webpage.
http://evidence-based-science.blogspot.com/2008/02/what-is-scientific-law-theory.html
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.
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Scientific Law: This is a statement of fact meant to explain, in concise terms, an action or set of actions. It is generally accepted to be true and univseral, and can sometimes be expressed in terms of a single mathematical equation. Scientific laws are similar to mathematical postulates. They don't really need any complex external proofs; they are accepted at face value based upon the fact that they have always been observed to be true.