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Bidens Immigration Policy Concerns Even Some Democrats

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by rjs330, Mar 1, 2021.

  1. rjs330

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    Well here we go with the open borders. Biden is opening the borders, for illegals while keeping legal crossings closed. His lax policy concerns even Democrats who have border governments. They say things we conservatives have been saying for some time. Concerns over, wages being driven down, jobs taken away from Americans and drug cartels. Now COVID is a concern since these illegals aren't being tested or vaccinated.

    This is why the borders need to be sealed.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/border-democrat-slams-biden-immigration
     
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  2. Maria Billingsley

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    At the very least, can we just admit there are jobs NO AMERICANS would ever do ! Thank you.
     
  3. Albion

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    Some, yes. However, there are nowhere near as many of them as there are immigrants during any year in which the borders are basically open.

    And it is not the case that every immigrant is even willing to take such jobs, particularly because there are numerous federal and state welfare benefits for which such people become eligible.
     
  4. Desk trauma

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    ...for the wages offered. Why does the last half of that get left off?
     
  5. Maria Billingsley

    Maria Billingsley Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Many Americans work for minimum wage. Sorry not buying your argument.
    Thanks for engaging.
     
  6. Maria Billingsley

    Maria Billingsley Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And helping the poor is a bad thing?
     
  7. Desk trauma

    Desk trauma Atheist Capitalist Supporter

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    Sorry that you are not familiar with economics.
     
  8. Desk trauma

    Desk trauma Atheist Capitalist Supporter

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    Ensuring that low skill jobs that can help people climb out of poverty have their wages pushed lower by the presence of cheap, easily exploitable illegal labor does not help them.
     
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  9. Albion

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    Let's stick to the topic of this thread before it gets way off-topic.
     
  10. Hank77

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    What is the minimum wage for a farmworker? It used to be several dollars less than the regular minimum wage.
     
  11. Desk trauma

    Desk trauma Atheist Capitalist Supporter

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    The minimum legal wage is the same across the board, excluding the who tip based pay nonsense, but under the table payments are so rife in that area that wage laws may as well be fiction.
     
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  12. SigurdReginson

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    Well, let's see....

    The Blaze - Media Bias Fact Check

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    Ok then, what's another left wing media news source that also has mixed ratings?

    MSNBC - Media Bias Fact Check

    Oh Yah! I definitely don't trust MSNBC. Both news sources pump out propaganda pieces. Nothing really to see there if you want any semblance of undiluted reality, or don't want someone telling you what to think.

    Reuters - Media Bias Fact Check

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    Oh! Here we go. They are a smidge left leaning, which isn't ideal, but they have a good track record for the accuracy of their articles and tend to be devoid of language meant to sway or manipulate people. They present the information as it is.

    Biden moves to reverse Trump immigration policies, too slowly for some

    That's better. :D
     
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  13. Maria Billingsley

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    Human trafficking-slave labor- is a big problem, I agree.
     
  14. Paulos23

    Paulos23 Never tell me the odds!

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    Ya, it is not where I would want it. But it is better than it was under Trump.

    There is still a lot of room for improvement.
     
  15. Desk trauma

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    I'm curious to see what becomes of it when it hits the floor after the last major effort from Bush went down in flames.
     
  16. rjs330

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    Why not? Why won't Americans do them? Could it be we because we are paying people NOT to work?
     
  17. Hank77

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    Here is a different issue.
    Until 1966, the FLSA excluded farmworkers. FLSA now applies the minimum wage and recordkeeping provisions to most agricultural workers and employers. Agricultural workers who are paid on a piecework basis rather than an hourly basis are entitled to receive the minimum wage — their average earnings should be sufficient to yield an average hourly wage at least equivalent to the minimum wage. The overtime pay provisions of FLSA, however, are still not applicable to farmworkers. Further, the many agricultural workers employed on smaller farms — any farm that employs fewer than roughly seven workers in a calendar quarter — are not even protected by the minimum wage provisions of the FLSA.
    US Labor Law for Farmworkers – Farmworker Justice
     
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  18. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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  19. Desk trauma

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  20. rjs330

    rjs330 Well-Known Member

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    Not hardly. I'm afraid you've been listening to the wrong people.
     
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