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Biden is President Elect

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by JimR-OCDS, Nov 7, 2020.

  1. The Barbarian

    The Barbarian Crabby Old White Guy

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    Lots of republicans, including
    George W. Bush,
    Mitt Romney,
    Maryland governor Larry Hogan,
    Senator Pat Toomey,
    Former Ohio governor John Kasich,
    Former New Jersey governor Christine Todd Whitman,
    Former New York rep Susan Molenari,
    Former Trump homeland security chief of staff Miles Taylor,
    Colin Powell,
    The Lincoln Project.
    Former republican rep Charley Dent,
    Former republican senator Chuck Hagel,
    Former defense secretary William Cohen,
    and Former Michigan governor Rick Snyder among others,

    are saying it. All the networks are now saying it. Leaders of other countries are saying it. You can argue that all of these are moderate to moderately conservative republicans. Which was the point I'm making. The party was competitive when they supported it.

    Now...

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    If either party goes for ideological purity, that party no longer represents America. The left was dismissive of Biden for accommodating the right. But Biden won. Not just the primaries,but the general election.

    For the very reason the extremists of the left and the right dismissed him. He retained his trust in America, the trust they had lost.
     
  2. The Barbarian

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    If he wins all the states in which he has substantial leads now, that will be the result. So far, seems rather likely.

    Biden might pick up few more votes from a recount; some votes that were postmarked before or on election day are yet to be counted (and Biden has a huge advantage in mail-in votes because Trump told his followers not to mail in their ballots). No recount in American history has ever overturned leads as big as Biden has now in those states.
     
  3. BrotherJJ

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    OP: Joe Biden becomes president elect. WRONG!

    As of 11/11/20 Joe Biden (although currently ahead) isn't the President elect & hasn't won anything.

    Come early January (after any & all legal challenges) when Congress counts the electoral votes. If Mr. Biden has 270 he will then (not before) be President elect.

    To be clear & thankfully, the news media & forum posters don't decide the President elect.

    Electors process:

    Early November votes are cast.

    December – Electors cast their votes in the Electoral College.

    Early January of the next calendar year – Congress counts the electoral votes & announces the president-elect.

    January 20 – Inauguration Day

    In depth help:
    https://staticshare.america.gov/uploads/2016/04/Elections-USA_In-Brief-Series_English_Lo-Res.pdf
     
  4. The Barbarian

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    Four million less than his opponent got. Which means his loss is one million voters greater than his loss in 2016. In four years, one million voters.

    That's a serious issue. It won't get better in four more years.

    High-school-or-less-educated white males in rural areas are a decreasing part of the voting population. And that's what the republican party is now depending on.
     
  5. The Barbarian

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    Joe Biden became president-elect on election day. When the final counts are certified, we will know for certain that he did.

    Your point is like saying that the Battle of Midway wasn't an American victory until analysts tallied up all the Japanese losses.

    Admiral Nimitz knew he had won long before the confirmatory details were compiled.
     
  6. The Barbarian

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    The data make it so. That's how it is with reality.

    Official recognition of the fact is another issue entirely. Trump has declared that he won the race by a large margin. Biden has declared that he has won.

    Trump is wrong, and Biden is right. That's just a fact.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2020
  7. BrotherJJ

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    Sorry just because you say so, doesn't make it so. I provided a link from america.gov in my post above. Best wishes, JJ.
     
  8. BrotherJJ

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    My post didn't argue a side. It laid out the Electors ""PROSESS"" & provided a link for the PROCESS from america.gov

    There is NO president-elect. Until the point in the PROCESS, when CONGRESS (elected officials) count the certified electoral college votes & declare who the president-elect is.

    No matter how many times people post or say, the USA currently has a president-elect. Doesn't change the fact there ISN'T one as of today.
     
  9. The Barbarian

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    It is November 11, 2020 and Joe Biden is still not President Elect. No matter what anyone in the media or politicians say.
     
  13. Archivist

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    Then tell me what the order says. That's all I have been asking. You cite to it, but you refuse to produce it. Burden of proof rests with the affirmative. It isn't up to me to research it, you are the one citing it, not me.
     
  14. Archivist

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    Why didn't I hear that said in earlier elections? In election 80, everyone said that Reagan was president-elect on election day. Dittos for his race four years later.

    Yes, technically the results aren't final until certified. But I remember what old Judge Sadler once said: "No man is ever more wrong than when he is merely technically right."
     
  15. AvilaSurfer

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    Still not....
     
  16. Archivist

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    Here are the leaders of the Democratic Party: Leadership - Democrats. I don't see her listed.
     
  17. Albion

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    ...because they have no future in either party, you should say.

    One leader of the Lincoln Project went that way because Trump did not give him a job in his administration. Another had to register as an agent of a foreign government, Russia. The main man considers himself to be a Democrat and announced that publicly. Still another of these wannabees attacked the President with the "tax evasion" line that is popular with Democratic candidates, only then to be shown up as owing a small fortune in unpaid taxes himself.

    Whatever they accused Trump of doing seemed to be what they were doing themselves. The Democrats don't want them; and the Republicans are disgusted by them. Your admiration for these posers was misplaced.

    nypost.com/2020/07/21/lincoln-project-founders-have-ties-to-russia-tax-troubles-docs/
     
  18. tulc

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    ...you list all that like it would disqualify someone from being a leader of the Party that says "character doesn't matter". :sorry:
    tulc(is just sayn')
     
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  20. The Barbarian

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    And yet you chose Hillary Clinton as the head of the democratic party when in fact, Joe Biden is the titular head.

    I suspect that tulc's puckish humor is responsible for your confusion.
     
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