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Biden Drops the Hammer on Unvaccinated

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by iluvatar5150, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. TLK Valentine

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  2. Semper-Fi

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    Biden knows his vax mandates are unconstitutional
    — but just doesn’t care


    Biden knows his vax mandates are unconstitutional — but doesn't care

    "Clearly, President Joe Biden is not chastened by the Supreme Court smackdown
    he got just a couple of weeks ago, when the justices invalidated the eviction
    moratorium that even administration officials acknowledge was patently lawless
    right before Biden reissued it.

    Quite the opposite.

    The administration is similarly well aware that the national vaccine mandate that
    the president is poised to issue is unlawful. White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain
    made the obvious explicit by retweeting a progressive commentator’s observation
    that the ploy of imposing the vaccine requirement as a workplace-safety rule
    under OSHA (the Occupational Safety and Health Administration) is the
    “ultimate work-around.”

    Translation: The president knows that an executive order mandating COVID vaccination would be shot down instantly, so he’s trying to camouflage it in a maze of Labor"
     
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  3. Hans Blaster

    Hans Blaster E pluribus unum

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    P1: Workplace safety and health is regulated under the OSH Act.
    P2: Disease spreading co-workers are a workplace health issue.
    P3: Vaccinations will drastically reduce the spread of disease by co-workers.

    Therefore, vaccination of contagious and dangerous diseases is a workplace heath issue. The "vaccinate or test" order for workplaces *will* survive all legal challenges.
     
  4. Aldebaran

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    If (3) was true, the vaccinated wouldn't have to keep wearing masks, and the hospitals wouldn't be filling up with fully vaccinated people with "rare" breakthrough cases.
     
  5. Hans Blaster

    Hans Blaster E pluribus unum

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    Check the data again, or better, find someone who actually understands the data and listen to their analyses.
     
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  6. TLK Valentine

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    Air bags drastically reduce traffic fatalities, and yet seat belts are still mandated.
    Hospitals are filling up with unvaccinated COVID cases.

    Try harder next time.
     
  7. Aldebaran

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    I already have. Data shows that most of the people in Israeli hospitals with Covid were fully vaccinated.
     
  8. KCfromNC

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    I'm not sure how this unverified anecdote has anything to do with current research on vaccine effectiveness, but thanks for sharing, I guess.

    It doesn't take faith if people would just look at the data rather than attempting to find reasons to distract from it as this post is trying to do.
     
  9. KCfromNC

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    If only there were evidence for any of these empty assertions.
     
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  10. KCfromNC

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    Yes, because most people in Israel in general are full vaccinated. This is like saying that data shows that all pro football players injured on the field were wearing a helmet, and concluding that helmets are to blame.
     
  11. Kentonio

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    Didn't this get answered on page 2 of the thread by wing2000?
     
  12. NxNW

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    Link, please.
    You wouldn't happen to be a member of the gullible public, would you?
     
  13. AvilaSurfer

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    Biden drops hammer. Biden doesn’t know what hammer is for. Biden hammered.
     
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  15. whatbogsends

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    And Israel is at the highest rates of infection since the beginning of the pandemic.

    Recently had a 7-day average of 10,128 on September 6 whereas the previous high before vaccines was 8,395 on Jan 14.

    It may have curbed Covid deaths somewhat but certainly not by anywhere near 90%. The 7-day average of Covid deaths peaked recently at 30, wheras they peaked in January at 62.

    It's unclear if they've reached the peak of this wave or if it will start to go down again.

    Israel COVID: 1,211,443 Cases and 7,494 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info)
     
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  16. Aldebaran

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    Some people focus on what happens in real life, while others are more impressed by squiggly lines and numbers on a page. Take your pick.
     
  17. Aldebaran

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    If a hospital filled up with players after each game due to concussions while wearing a helmet, it would certainly call into question the effectiveness of the helmet being used.
     
  18. BigDaddy4

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    I could be wrong, but I don't recall any of the posters on here as being from Israel? Every article or news report I recall seeing says the unvaccinated make up the the majority of the hospitalizations and deaths in the United States. As much as 90-95% in some places. So why are we talking about Israel?
     
  19. Aldebaran

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    High vaccination rate
    High hospitalization rate
    Internet access to news about both of those items from anywhere in the world
     
  20. BigDaddy4

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    While you ignore the data around your area and around the country you live in, which is more likely to affect you. Doesn't do much to help your point to use Israel while ignoring other, more relevant data.
     
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