Bernie Sanders could beat Trump in 2020

[Mountainmanbob]

Bernie Sanders could beat Trump in 2020: Karl Rove

 

[Ttalkkugjil]

Bernie Sanders could beat Trump in 2020: Karl Rove

He could, given that he's still alive.

 

[bekkilyn]

He could, given that he's still alive.

That could be said for anyone.

 

[thecolorsblend]

Bernie Sanders could beat Trump in 2020: Karl Rove

Trump has a lot of advantages now that he didn't have last time and the issues that will define 2020 probably haven't happened yet.

It's really premature to start picking winners and losers.

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Bernie probably has the best chance though.

 

[Archivist]

He could, given that he's still alive.

He’s only five years older than Trump, only one year older than Biden, two years younger than Nancy Pelosi.

 

[Rubiks]

He could, given that he's still alive.

If he doesn't have any obvious signs of dementia, then he's not too old to run for president.

 

[com7fy8]

Hillary Clinton beat Donald, in the popular vote. So, I would say any accepted Democratic candidate can beat him because of the loyal Democratic bloc who would never vote for Donald.

Even so, of course, the electoral college voted him in, but now there is indication that the Russians could have helped tip the scales so Donald got as many votes as he did. If the Russians had not done that, may be Hillary would have won.

And so I can see it possible that without Russian interference any Democratic candidate could beat Donald, just because of Democratic voters' loyalty to their party.

He has not gained any more favor of the loyal voting Democratic voters, possibly. So, that bloc of votes could stay the same. But without Russian help Donald might not get so many votes. I have not found any official indication about how many votes could have been swayed away from Hillary and to Donald, because of the Russian interference.

We will see.

Then there is the matter of how "God resists the proud" (in James 4:6, 1 Peter 5:5). How He resists the proud can decide who gets in. But our humble and caring prayer for any and all people will have His result. So, it is wise to love and care for and pray for every candidate > "first of all" > 1 Timothy 2:1-4.

 

[Ttalkkugjil]

That could be said for anyone.

Yes, but because of his extreme age, there's a better chance that Bernie will have kicked it by 2020.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Hillary Clinton beat Donald, in the popular vote. So, I would say any accepted Democratic candidate can beat him because of the loyal Democratic bloc who would never vote for Donald.

Even so, of course, the electoral college voted him in, but now there is indication that the Russians could have helped tip the scales so Donald got as many votes as he did. If the Russians had not done that, may be Hillary would have won.

And so I can see it possible that without Russian interference any Democratic candidate could beat Donald, just because of Democratic voters' loyalty to their party.

He has not gained any more favor of the loyal voting Democratic voters, possibly. So, that bloc of votes could stay the same. But without Russian help Donald might not get so many votes. I have not found any official indication about how many votes could have been swayed away from Hillary and to Donald, because of the Russian interference.

We will see.

Then there is the matter of how "God resists the proud" (in James 4:6, 1 Peter 5:5). How He resists the proud can decide who gets in. But our humble and caring prayer for any and all people will have His result. So, it is wise to love and care for and pray for every candidate > "first of all" > 1 Timothy 2:1-4.

For some reason I thought we were done hearing about the Russians?
M-Bob

 

[com7fy8]

For some reason I thought we were done hearing about the Russians?
M-Bob

Yes, the news can change issues, just by reporting a new item. Already, the border wall and family separations issue has taken a back seat to the report.

But I am asking if anyone knows how the next election might be effected by the absence of the Russians from the voting process.

 

[bekkilyn]

Yes, but because of his extreme age, there's a better chance that Bernie will have kicked it by 2020.

He's not even 80 years old yet. That's hardly extreme!

 

[Mountainmanbob]

But I am asking if anyone knows how the next election might be effected by the absence of the Russians from the voting process.

I doubt we will ever see that 100%.

Just as we probably dabble in theirs.

M-Bob

 

[Archivist]

I doubt we will ever see that 100%.

Just as we probably dabble in theirs.

M-Bob

Everyone who complains about the Russians dabbling in our election seems to conveniently forget the number of elections that we have dabbled in.

 

[The Barbarian]

For some reason I thought we were done hearing about the Russians?

They interfered in the 2016 election, and they are convinced that their intervention for Trump was the reason he won. They are still attempting to weaken the United States in other ways as well. One Trump national security advisor is going to do prison time for lying about his contacts with Russian agents. A Trump associate is going to trial for his role in the Russian effort to undermine America. So probably not anytime soon.

 

[com7fy8]

Just as we probably dabble in theirs.

Oh-h-h . . . I conveniently forgot about that possibility.

 

[JacobKStarkey]

Sanders can beat Trump, who has gained and then thrown away so many advantages.

 

[Zanting]

No...no chance...polls can't be trusted at all (as was proven during your last election).

Donald Trump will win in 2020...elected by your nations people...without interference from anywhere...of that I have no doubt.

Furthermore...I suspect if he could run for a third term, your countrymen would vote him in again.

 

[JacobKStarkey]

Learn the dif between predictive and opinion polls.

The polls predicting Clinton would win were correct: she won the PV by more than 2mm.

Did you know that 14mm voted against Trump than for him?

That last figure may grow to 20mm in 2020.

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump's major concern is the loss of support in the upper midwest. He's now down by 5 to 12 points in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. He can't lose these states and win the presidency.

What's worse for him is that there's not much play in those numbers. He doesn't fall much more than he has, but he doesn't rise much more than that, either. His hope is that the democrats will nominate a really weak candidate.

 

[JacobKStarkey]

Friday, April 26
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Biden The Hill/HarrisX Biden 43, Trump 37 Biden +6
General Election: Trump vs. Buttigieg Rasmussen Reports Trump 44, Buttigieg 40 Trump +4
President Trump Job Approval The Hill/HarrisX Approve 45, Disapprove 55 Disapprove +10
President Trump Job Approval ABC News/Wash Post Approve 42, Disapprove 54 Disapprove +12
President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 49, Disapprove 49 Tie
Wednesday, April 24
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
President Trump Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 45, Disapprove 52 Disapprove +7
President Trump Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 40, Disapprove 53 Disapprove +13
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Politico/Morning Consult Biden 42, Trump 34 Biden +8