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Being Christian and Collecting Gay Anime Figures

Discussion in 'Anime & Manga' started by Nebula1, Sep 6, 2019.

  1. Nebula1

    Nebula1 New Member

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    So here's my question, feel free to answer even if you're not religious, but religious opinions are preferred so I'm a christian girl that likes collecting anime figures and I ran across this dramatical murder anime figure that I really want to


    Collect, and keep in my that the anime character is gay and I was wondering would it be wrong for me to get it if it was just for art purpose and not because of lust or anything thanks in advance to those who answer.
     
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  2. David Cabrera

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    Is your character male or female?
     
  3. MasterYourLife

    MasterYourLife Active Member

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    Is homosexuality not condemned by God? Then what place does sin have in your house.
     
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  4. ☦Marius☦

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    In this particular circumstance I wouldn't worry about it. You aren't acquiring it based on the fact that he is gay. B: The beginning?
     
  5. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    I wouldn't collect it. That might invite evil into your home. You said it was a murder figure? Forgive me I'm not an anime buff :(
     
  6. MasterYourLife

    MasterYourLife Active Member

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    Correct.

    Objects decorated by sin are doorways for evil.

    Learn from Israel who God turned His face away from, when they kept spoils of a cursed city.
     
  7. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    Thanks, yeah I was getting attacked until I got rid of some sinful decoration from my home. Now it's gone :) Strange how that works.
     
  8. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    By that logic, why should you invite ANYONE into your house or even be in your own house, as a sinner? If everyone is a sinner then by your logic of not allowing sin in your house, even you, saved by God's grace, are still technically a sinner and thus should not be in your own house. And even if we qualified it by ad hoc logic to include non Christians and gays, does that mean you shouldn't let them in your house at all? Seems pretty un neighborly, esp. if the idea is to show Christian charity and not be exclusionary based on something that isn't necessarily going to be relevant if all they're doing is coming over for dinner or such
     
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    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    Strange how humans suffer from apophenia, because that's why you would fallaciously conclude that removing that thing somehow causes this bad thing to stop rather than it merely being correlative at most.
     
  10. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    Any character's qualities are not necessarily the reason, particularly those that aren't germane to your overall appreciation. I have a plush of Morgiana from Magi, I didn't get it based on, for instance, the idea that she was formerly a slave or even for other reasons that one could object to morally, it's that she is a character I appreciate for her strong will and devotion to friends.

    In this instance, the character being gay seems like an afterthought rather than their personality, appearance, etc, which is perfectly normal for aesthetic appreciation
     
  11. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    :argh:

    The anime's title is Dramatical Murder, it's not about murder, far as I can tell, that's more flair. It's sci fi with some mystery elements. And sure, there are implied gay relationships, same as in other stuff in that vein, it's not telling you to be gay or that you should approve of it by necessity. Heck, Japan is further behind in terms of really giving fair treatment to LGBTQ than America is, so you can just regard this as a subculture and not reflective of Japan's political or even social norms.

    The figure is just a character, it's not a murder, because I don't think 99.9% of anime/manga/etc figures are even remotely about someone being dead.

    If you're going to be superstitious, at least investigate a bit further than one word you can pounce on to warn about "evil" having some influence by association.

    By that logic, me possessing little Hotei sculptures or Buddhist prayer beads in my parents' house should be bringing EVIL into our house, but I'm pretty sure we're okay, nothing really negative happening.
     
  12. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    Does that matter? The sex of the OP and the character the figure is based on is irrelevant in terms of their motivation, esp. if the primary concern is more that they happen to be gay in the source material, rather than being male or female. Even if the character was female, for instance, and the OP was also female, what difference does that make?
     
  13. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    I mean, if this is your first concern, I feel like you're not really in any spiritual danger, assuming such a thing woudl even be the case with mere figures. I have plushies myself of Shikamaru from Naruto, Ami and Hotaru from Sailor Moon, Morg from Magi and one more, I think offhand. But that doesn't mean I'm trying to do ninjutsu, crossdress in sailor outfits or advocate slavery or using metal vessels for magic.

    You having a character that happens to be gay seems as irrelevant as if you collected a character that, in the source material, is half demon or such (do you like Inuyasha for instance?)

    What other characters do you have in your collection, if I may ask? The concern you have is probably as unwarranted as if you had some character that, in their series, did something else that was perceived as bad or otherwise makes them *gasp* a flawed character. Speaking as an outsider, the concern for me is when you stop considering reasonable approaches to enjoying things like anime/manga/etc and just focus on desires (and my Buddhist influence might factor into that advice a bit) without any regard for you or others being able to afford living expenses or such.

    But simply having material or any kind that may have something objectionable to your beliefs is not an indication you will be corrupted by it, esp. if you maintain a basic vigilance that you aren't unduly influenced by fiction in the first place. I really enjoy Batman, I'm NOT going to go out and fight crime in spandex.
     
  14. David Cabrera

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    Easy there man...
    I am asking since she mentioned something about lust.
     
  15. MasterYourLife

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    What than, shall we continue to sin because we already sin? We sin so shall we sin more because of it?
    If a believer has sinned, does that justify them to willfully bring an abomination into their house?
    Scripture teaches not to let an unbeliever into your house. For what fellowship hath light with darkness.
    Unbelievers sin, and they will sin more. Believers sin, and they will sin less. Believers will avoid bringing sin into their house.
     
  16. MasterYourLife

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    Be cautious of taking advice on Christianity from a Buddhist.
     
  17. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    By that logic, you can't bring mixed fabrics, shellfish and the like, they're ALL called abominations, which doesn't entail moral antipathy, just ritual uncleanness and the like. If you're going to be consistent, then apply the whole book or admit you're cherry picking to gripe about non hetero people, as if they do anything that's wrong in itself because you think procreative sex is the only proper form.

    Pretty sure the verse you're quoting is not the same as having utter inhospitality because someone is a nonbeliever, but letting them worship as such in your house.

    Sin less, but not be sinless, so maybe get off your high horse and quit condescending to others
     
  18. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    Never claimed to be giving Christian advice, don't put words in my mouth
     
  19. David Cabrera

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    I'm not asking for advice, just clarifying stuff.
     
  20. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    She was going based on a simplistic notion of lust in the first place, it's not strictly the case that mere presence of something will bring forth lust, even if it's some representation like a figure or an image.

    Or she was confusing lust and idolatry, neither of which are necessarily coming from mere collection of things like that. Otherwise, I'd be "worshipping" the little sculptures of Hotei I have in my desk, but I don't, esp. because they're not standing up, they're in a drawer.

    Does my Christian friend who has a figure of Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho believe in fox spirits and such? Probably not and also isn't idolizing them, they just like the character
     
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