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Behold the wood of the cross on which hung the saviour of the world!

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by MoreCoffee, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. Rick Otto

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    There's no shortage of crackpot theories to find ...;)
     
  2. Mama Kidogo

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    No need to kill. Find an Orthodox church and go. You'll be warmly welcomed.
    We chant or sing just about everything.:liturgy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYg5D6gpe98
     
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  3. Targaryen

    Targaryen Scripture,Tradition and Reason

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    The Old Rugged Cross - YouTube

    On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
    The emblem of suffering and shame;
    And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
    For a world of lost sinners was slain.


    So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
    Till my trophies at last I lay down;
    I will cling to the old rugged cross,
    And exchange it some day for a crown.


    O that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
    Has a wondrous attraction for me;
    For the dear Lamb of God left His glory above
    To bear it to dark Calvary.


    So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
    Till my trophies at last I lay down;
    I will cling to the old rugged cross,
    And exchange it some day for a crown.


    In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
    A wondrous beauty I see,
    For ’twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died,
    To pardon and sanctify me.


    So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
    Till my trophies at last I lay down;
    I will cling to the old rugged cross,
    And exchange it some day for a crown.


    To the old rugged cross I will ever be true;
    Its shame and reproach gladly bear;
    Then He’ll call me some day to my home far away,
    Where His glory forever I’ll share.


    So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
    Till my trophies at last I lay down;
    I will cling to the old rugged cross,
    And exchange it some day for a crown.
    -- George Bennard, 1913
     
  6. Targaryen

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  7. LittleLambofJesus

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    Is that what Isaiah 22:24,25 is referring to?

    Isaiah 22:
    24 "So they will hang on him all the glory of his father's house, offspring and issue, all the least of vessels, from bowls to all the jars.
    25 "In that day," declares the LORD of hosts, "the peg driven in a firm place will give way; it will even break off and fall,
    and the load hanging on it will be cut off, for the LORD has spoken."


    .
     
  8. James Is Back

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    Hey guys a tip. When posting a youtube video drop the s in https so that it doesn't stretch the page.
     
  9. MoreCoffee

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    I'm glad that this thread is back, it is such a relief from the standard thread material we receive in GT.

    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    :holy::holy::holy:
     
  10. James Is Back

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    I like the music you guys are posting. And you're right Coffee it's a much more peaceful thread than some in GT.

    Like an eye in the hurricane!
     
  11. Mama Kidogo

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    Amen.
     
  12. MoreCoffee

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    Veni Creator Spiritus - Invocation of the Holy Spirit - YouTube

    1. Veni, creator Spiritus
    mentes tuorum visita,
    imple superna gratia,
    quae tu creasti pectora.

    2. Qui diceris Paraclitus,
    altissimi donum Dei,
    fons vivus, ignis, caritas
    et spiritalis unctio.

    3. Tu septiformis munere,
    digitus paternae dexterae
    tu rite promissum Patris
    sermone ditans guttura.

    4. Accende lumen sensibus,
    infunde amorem cordibus,
    infirma nostri corporis,
    virtute firmans perpeti.

    5. Hostem repellas longius
    pacemque dones protinus;
    ductore sic te praevio
    vitemus omne noxium.

    6. Per te sciamus da Patrem
    noscamus atque Filium,
    te utriusque Spiritum
    credamus omni tempore.

    7. Deo Patri sit gloria,
    et Filio qui a mortuis
    Surrexit, ac Paraclito,
    in saeculorum saecula.
    Amen.

    V. Emitte Spiritum tuum, et creabuntur:
    R. Et renovabis faciem terrae.

    English translation:
    Come, Holy Ghost, Creator blest,
    and in our hearts take up Thy rest;
    come with Thy grace and heav'nly aid,
    To fill the hearts which Thou hast made.

    O Comforter, to Thee we cry,
    Thou heav'nly gift of God most high,
    Thou Fount of life, and Fire of love,
    and sweet anointing from above.

    O Finger of the hand divine,
    the sevenfold gifts of grace are thine;
    true promise of the Father thou,
    who dost the tongue with power endow.

    Thy light to every sense impart,
    and shed thy love in every heart;
    thine own unfailing might supply
    to strengthen our infirmity.

    Drive far away our ghostly foe,
    and thine abiding peace bestow;
    if thou be our preventing Guide,
    no evil can our steps betide.

    Praise we the Father and the Son
    and Holy Spirit with them One;
    and may the Son on us bestow
    the gifts that from the Spirit flow.

    V. Send forth Thy Spirit, and they shall be created.
    R. And Thou shalt renew the face of the earth.
     
  13. MoreCoffee

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    The same in English :)

    Come Holy Ghost Our Souls Inspire - YouTube

    Come, Holy Ghost, our souls inspire,
    and lighten with celestial fire.
    Thou the anointing Spirit art,
    who dost thy sevenfold gifts impart.

    Thy blessed unction from above
    is comfort, life, and fire of love.
    Enable with perpetual light
    the dullness of our blinded sight.

    Anoint and cheer our soiled face
    with the abundance of thy grace.
    Keep far our foes, give peace at home:
    where thou art guide, no ill can come.

    Teach us to know the Father, Son,
    and thee, of both, to be but One,
    that through the ages all along,
    this may be our endless song:

    Praise to thy eternal merit,
    Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
     
  14. MoreCoffee

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    Adoro Te Devote - Catholic Hymns, Gregorian Chant - YouTube

    Adoro te devote, latens Deitas,
    Quæ sub his figuris vere latitas;
    Tibi se cor meum totum subjicit,
    Quia te contemplans totum deficit.

    Visus, tactus, gustus in te fallitur,
    Sed auditu solo tuto creditur.
    Credo quidquid dixit Dei Filius;
    Nil hoc verbo veritátis verius.

    O memoriale mortis Domini!
    Panis vivus, vitam præstans homini!
    Præsta meæ menti de te vívere,
    Et te illi semper dulce sapere.

    Pie Pelicane, Jesu Domine,
    Me immundum munda tuo sanguine:
    Cujus una stilla salvum facere
    Totum mundum quit ab omni scelere.

    Jesu, quem velatum nunc aspicio,
    Oro, fiat illud quod tam sitio:
    Ut te revelata cernens facie,
    Visu sim beátus tuæ gloriæ. Amen


    I devoutly adore you, O hidden God,
    Truly hidden beneath these appearances.
    My whole heart submits to you,
    And in contemplating you,
    It surrenders itself completely.

    Sight, touch, taste are all deceived
    In their judgment of you,
    But hearing suffices firmly to believe.
    I believe all that the Son of God has spoken;
    There is nothing truer than this word of truth.

    O memorial of our Lord's death!
    Living bread that gives life to man,
    Grant my soul to live on you,
    And always to savour your sweetness.

    Lord Jesus, Good Pelican,
    wash me clean with your blood,
    One drop of which can free
    the entire world of all its sins.

    Jesus, whom now I see hidden,
    I ask you to fulfil what I so desire:
    That on seeing you face to face,
    I may be happy in seeing your glory. Amen​
     
  15. James Is Back

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    Thanks again for those vids Coffee :thumbsup:
     
  16. MoreCoffee

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    The words of Christ on the cross contained parts of two psalms. Here is one of them,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztm_vLGh2zA
    Psalm 22:2-9, 18, 19, 22, 24, and 32
    Latin:
    1. Deus, Deus meus, réspice in me: quare me dereliquísti?
    2. Longe a salúte mea verba delictórum meórum.
    3. Deus meus, clamábo per diem, nec exáudies: in nocte, et non ad insipiéntiam mihi.
    4. Tu autem in sancto hábitas, laus Israël.
    5. In te speravérunt patres nostri: speravérunt, et liberásti eos.
    6. Ad te clamavérunt, et salvi facti sunt: in te speravérunt, et non sunt confusi.
    7. Ego autem sum vermis, et non homo: oppróbrium hóminum et abjéctio plebis.
    8. Omnes, qui vidébant me, aspernabántur me: locúti sunt lábiis et movérunt caput.
    9. Sperávit in Dómino, erípiat eum: salvum fáciat eum, quóniam vult eum.
    10. Ipsi vero consideravérunt et conspexérunt me: divisérunt sibi vestiménta mea, et super vestem meam misérunt sortem.
    11. Líbera me de ore leónis: et a córnibus unicórnium humilitátem meam.
    12. Qui timétis Dóminum, laudáte eum: univérsum semen Jacob, magnificáte eum.
    13. Annuntiábitur Dómino generátio ventúra: et annuntiábunt coeli justítiam ejus.
    14. Pópulo, qui nascétur, quem fecit Dóminus.​
    English:
    1. O God, my God, look upon me; why hast Thou forsaken me?
    2. Far from my salvation are the words of my sins.
    3. O my God, I shall cry by day, and Thou wilt not hear; and by night, and it shall not be reputed as folly in me.
    4. But Thou dwellest in the holy place, the praise of Israel.
    5. In Thee have our fathers hoped; they have hoped, and Thou hast delivered them.
    6. They cried to Thee, and they were saved; they trusted in Thee, and were not confounded.
    7. But I am a worm, and no man: the reproach of men and the outcast of the people.
    8. All they that saw Me have laughed Me to scorn; they have spoken with the lips and wagged the head.
    9. He hoped in the Lord, let Him deliver Him; let Him save Him, seeing He delighteth in Him.
    10. But they have looked and stared upon Me; they parted My garments amongst them, and upon My vesture they cast lots.
    11. Deliver me from the lion's mouth, and my lowness from the horns of the unicorns.
    12. Ye that fear the Lord, praise Him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify Him.
    13. There shall be declared to the Lord a generation to come; and the heavens shall show forth His justice.
    14. To a people that shall be born, which the Lord hath made.​
     
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  17. Restoresmysoul

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    Praise the Lord.


    Psalm 2
    2 Why do the nations rage,
    And the people plot a vain thing?

    2
    The kings of the earth set themselves,
    And the rulers take counsel together,
    Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,

    3
    “Let us break Their bonds in pieces
    And cast away Their cords from us.”



    4
    He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
    The Lord shall hold them in derision.

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    Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
    And distress them in His deep displeasure:

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    “Yet I have set My King
    On My holy hill of Zion.”



    7
    “I will declare the decree:
    The Lord has said to Me,
    ‘You are My Son,
    Today I have begotten You.

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    Ask of Me, and I will give You
    The nations for Your inheritance,
    And the ends of the earth for Your possession.

    9
    You shall break[a] them with a rod of iron;
    You shall dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’”



    10
    Now therefore, be wise, O kings;
    Be instructed, you judges of the earth.

    11
    Serve the Lord with fear,
    And rejoice with trembling.

    12
    Kiss the Son, lest [c] He be angry,
    And you perish in the way,
    When His wrath is kindled but a little.
    Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.
     
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    The Exaltation of the Cross

    What are these Christians about, exalting an instrument of torture?

    First, we rejoice that something so terrible should have been transformed into a means of redemption for the whole human race.

    Second, we remind ourselves of the fact that Christianity is not an abstract and spiritual religion. It springs from God’s direct intervention in the affairs of the world, a real historical event involving real people and, in the end, a real execution on a real cross. We may theorise and theologise all we like; but all our theorisings and theologisings are nothing without the history on which they are based. Take away that history – take away the Cross – and Christianity is nonsense.
     
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