"Barack Obama founded ISIS" says Donald Trump

[naveed]

"Barack Obama founded ISIS" says Donald Trump

 

[ThatRobGuy]

No, not "founded" in the way that many people would like everyone else to believe.

We created an environment in which radical groups like that can flourish due to the destabilization of the region...however that's very different than saying the US "founded" ISIS.

 

[jayem]

We created an environment in which radical groups like that can flourish due to the destabilization of the region...however that's very different than saying the US "founded" ISIS.

Correct. But if any one person is at fault, it's George W. Bush. Though his accomplices were the intelligence agencies who misinterpreted data regarding Saddam Hussein's WMD capabilities. And the members of Congress in both parties who voted for the Iraq war resolution. (Which excludes Pres. O., who wasn't in the Senate until 2005.)

 

[jgarden]

"Barack Obama founded ISIS" says Donald Trump

"The Donald" has also accused the father of former presidential candidate "lying" Ted Cruz, of being part of the conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy!

 

[naveed]

We created an environment in which radical groups like that can flourish due to the destabilization of the region

yes

 

[cow451]

Barack Obama should not have invaded Iraq. Plain and simple. Now Trump has to clean up the mess. Obama should have left well enough alone.

 

[MorkandMindy]

What I heard was that:
We wanted to topple Assad

So someone in the State Dept., not Hillary herself, made indirect contact with our friends or ex-friends Al Q to produce a spin off group that was a political wing, not a tight knit group like Al Q but a big group

And the Islamic State as it is named resulted.

But some reporters vilified it so now it is a group fighting Assad as required but one we can not be seen to support.

We stop the Russians from destroying them and most of their vehicles came indirectly from us, but we do not in any way directly support them.

 

[LoAmmi]

Barack Obama should not have invaded Iraq. Plain and simple. Now Trump has to clean up the mess. Obama should have left well enough alone.

Obama also should have been more aware that Japan was becoming anxious and would likely look to cripple our Navy with a sneak attack. It was even an attack in his home state? Sad!

 

[Albion]

Correct. But if any one person is at fault, it's George W. Bush. Though his accomplices were the intelligence agencies who misinterpreted data regarding Saddam Hussein's WMD capabilities.

I'm sympathetic in general, but don't forget that this assessment of Sadaam's WMD did not come just from American Intelligence agencies, but also from the United Nations and the Intelligence services of at least a half-dozen other, major countries.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Um, we cut off the oil supply to Japan, well it was a bit complicated at our end but that was what in the end we did. Both sides knew Japan had enough oil to last only until the end of the year and would have to take the Dutch East Indies by then and would make a move to protect it's east flank by disabling the US fleet.

Hawaii was not part of the US but the fleet was stationed there are the US watched a Japanese spy keep track of the ships in the harbor. As soon as he left for Japan we pulled all the ships we needed and left the others in the harbor for the surprise attack.

 

[cow451]

Um, we cut off the oil supply to Japan, well it was a bit complicated at our end but that was what in the end we did. Both sides knew Japan had enough oil to last only until the end of the year and would have to take the Dutch East Indies by then and would make a move to protect it's east flank by disabling the US fleet.

Hawaii was not part of the US but the fleet was stationed there are the US watched a Japanese spy keep track of the ships in the harbor. As soon as he left for Japan we pulled all the ships we needed and left the others in the harbor for the surprise attack.

It was necessary to protect Hawaii so that Obama could be "born" there.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Trump says a lot of stupid things.

 

[wing2000]

Barack Obama should not have invaded Iraq. Plain and simple. Now Trump has to clean up the mess. Obama should have left well enough alone.

....but, but we're letting democracy flourish!

 

[MorkandMindy]

To 'bring democracy' means the same as 'to make it safe for democracy'. Both mean removing all possible obstacles to US rule via a puppet government, and the only sure way to do that is to destroy the country completely.

Normally that isn't done and the country is kept 'safe' by interventions as needed,
just by economic means if that is sufficient, or bribing or assassinating an uncooperative head of state, or if that doesn't work then by a rebel force we train and arm and only as a last resort (after trying peaceful methods) we put our own boots on the ground as proved necessary in Libya.

 

[Hetta]

OMIGOSH for real? This goes back to the idiot Reagan. He was behind the arming of the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 80s. He basically ushered in the Taliban and Bin Laden. But sure, it all started in the last eight years. I don't think that Drumpf can read, to be honest. I really think it's beyond him to think of anything other than his hatred for Obama.

 

[cow451]

OMIGOSH for real? This goes back to the idiot Reagan. He was behind the arming of the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 80s. He basically ushered in the Taliban and Bin Laden. But sure, it all started in the last eight years. I don't think that Drumpf can read, to be honest. I really think it's beyond him to think of anything other than his hatred for Obama.

Knowing what we know now, we should have let Russia and the Taliban go at it until the expiration of time.

 

[Hetta]

Knowing what we know now, we should have let Russia and the Taliban go at it until the expiration of time.

100% agree.

 

[cow451]

100% agree.

You know Obama could've time-traveled and fixed it.... but, NOOOO!

 

[Maren]

You know Obama could've time-traveled and fixed it.... but, NOOOO!

You mean like he did with his Birth Certificate?

 

[cow451]

You mean like he did with his Birth Certificate?

Correct. Always thinking of himself. Never putting America first.